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To: Woodkirk
"Theotokos" means literally "God of usury, or God of interest on money loaned" or by extension "God of moneylenders or moneychangers" -- and which one of those three meanings a person chooses depends on the context?

Thank you for your philosophy. .

You are rapidly descending to Havoc's level of irrelevance.

Pray for the Vicar of Christ

24,397 posted on 02/05/2002 7:57:59 PM PST by dignan3
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To: dignan3
What was relevant about that, other than trying to slam 2 NC's at the same time?
24,399 posted on 02/05/2002 8:04:43 PM PST by Iowegian
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To: dignan3, Havoc
Thank you for your question. It is quite relevant.

For the last couple weeks we here have been trying to reconcile, with help from all religious backgrounds, the Mary of Greco-Roman Theological Tradition and the Mary of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Those of the former have admitted that their Mary has a surname or last name of "Theotokos", while those of the latter find no such thing. Mary Theotokos is a different person altogether from "Mary, mother of Jesus, and and James, and Joseph, and Judas, and Simon, and their sisters." Mary, mother of Jesus, ... is the Biblical Mary of history, while Mary Theotokos is a creation of the imagination.

In order to find the father of Mary Theotokos, we endeavored to find the meaning of the word "Theotokos" . One Orthodox Church expert and one Roman Catholic Church researcher here claimed that it meant "Mother of God", but that is clearly an imaginative rendering of that word that defies logic. When these experts were asked to go to the Greek source of the word, they declined. They subsequently deferred to a resident Greek scholar here, who, with some encouragement, concluded that "tokos" does indeed mean "usury or interest on money loaned". With "Theo" indisputably meaning "God, or deity", in combination with "tokos", "Theotokos" means just what you said: "God of usury . . . "

Scripture says that in the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every matter be established. That "Theotokos" means "God of usury ..." and is the surname or last name of the Mary of Greco-Roman Theological Tradition has been established here by experts in their field, from the contextual approach to word meanings and Strong[er] source : Strong's Exhaustive Concordance and the Work of those great Greek and Hebrew scholars assembled by RCC monarch King James in the early 17th century.

Greco-Roman historians tell us that when the Roman Empire fell, public buildings where taxes were collected, money exchanged, loans made, financial matters conducted became the basilicas of the Roman Church where it subsequently carried on its worship of Mary Theotokos.

Mary Theotokos and her father will help shed light on the woman riding the beast in Revelation 17. After all a harlot is a woman who does what she does for money. It also sheds light on what Jesus meant in the Gospels by the two masters. It also explains why the CIA Directory of corporate enterprises lists the main business of the Vatican as "banking and finance" not religion.

In order to further assist our Greco-Roman friends here in identifying the father of Mary Theotokos, experts in Hebrew have been consulted. This is from them:

Hebrew word "nashak" from the word "nasha" [lead astray, mentally delude, deceive as well as lend on interest, exact debt] means "to strike with the sting of a serpent, to bite (like a serpent)" as well as "lend on usury, oppress with interest on a loan". The Hebrew word "nasha" dovetais with the Greek word "tokos", and the deiinition links the activity of moneylenders, banking, and finance with the father of Mary Theotokos, and goes a long way to explain why her worship is entwined with the financial affairs of the Vatican.

If we can be of further service in helping Mary Theotokos worshippers with her geneology, please don't hesitate to ask. .

24,448 posted on 02/06/2002 6:16:48 AM PST by Woodkirk
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