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To: Woodkirk;angelo
Sigh.

I hope my kids don't try this when they get older.

If you had said "The Rams won the superbowl because they have the better offense" you would be wrong. When it is proven to you that, in fact, the Pats won the game, you could then come back and claim victory by saying that nobody could prove that you were wrong about the "better offense" point. But everyone here would know that you were wrong and you would just be making yourself look foolish.

You are doing precisely the same thing despite multiple posts from people who do not agree with the RCC on very much. You point was not that "tokos" meant "usury" it was :

Per Strong's Concordance Greek Dictionary P72:

"Theoteko" means "God + bearer".[#5088] "Theotokos" means "God + usury" [#5110]

You get no points for showing that Strong's says something that nobody has denied it says. Just like you get no points for now proving that the Rams have the better offense. They (and you) lost anyway. Strongs does not say "'Theotokos' means 'God + usury'" does it?

But I didn't make up the word or the definition. It comes from a most reliable source: Strong's Exhaustive Concordance -- not from the imagination station or thin air.

Ah. But that's precisely what you did do. You didn't make up the definition for "tokos", but you did make up a definition for "theotokos".

Now you can stand in the casino yelling at the top of your lungs "but the Rams do have the better offense! I was right! It says it right here in 'Lindy's Guide'! Why is everybody so stupid?"

But you still won't be able to cash in your bet... because you lost.

Angelo - Thanks for the earlier post (the link you gave him may be lost in the renumbering problem here, but he may be able to figure it out. I apologize for the "casino" reference to this thread. By the time I realized where the post lead I didn't want to retype the whole thing.

24,044 posted on 02/05/2002 2:24:48 AM PST by IMRight
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To: IMRight
You get no points for showing that Strong's says something that nobody has denied it says. Just like you get no points for now proving that the Rams have the better offense. They (and you) lost anyway. Strongs does not say "'Theotokos' means 'God + usury'" does it?

I believe Woodkirk knows what Theotokos means and is just trying to do whatever Woodkirk is trying to do. Thanks for you (and others) statements on this.

24,047 posted on 02/05/2002 4:09:44 AM PST by Fury
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To: IMRight
'Theotokos' means 'God + usury'" does it?

I just looked it up in three different greek dictionaries. It is a relevant and valid interpretation. You're too hung up, it would seem, on the word usury instead of what it represents. On the other hand, my dictionaries fail to use the word 'mother'. I see "a bringing forth; birth: offspring, child, son; descent; use-money; interest"

So none of the translations in any of the dictionaries I have would render "theotokos" as God + mother. (mother of God). It would allow "Interest of God" which is what is meant by Usury. It would allow "bringing forth God", "Child of God" (wow!). I have to say I like that last one best. But, there it is..

24,363 posted on 02/05/2002 7:17:43 PM PST by Havoc
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