To: hopefulpilgrim
Why is this important to Catholics? Honestly, it sounds like she is part diety to some of you guys. No doubt she was a very virtuous girl and undoubtedly blessed by God, but she was a human needing to be redeemed by the blood of Jesus, her Saviour. Never denied It. She did need saving just like the rest of us.
I don't know why? It is an easy one. Mary was Immaculately Conceived for the sole purpose of being Christ's mother. Thus the cause of her sinlessness was Christ
And what bit of extra-biblical logic do you use to come up with this one? Why do you have so little regard for the one thing that God told us is inspired by Him...the holy writings...and so MUCH regard for that which is NOT inspired by God? Venerate the Christ, NOT his mother.
You didn't ask for a Biblical explanation, all you asked was how could Mary need a Savior if she was without sin? If you don't like the clearly obvious Logic (God, FYI, isn't restricted by 4d He invented time) explanation for a belief then you shouldn't' ask for it. If you wanted to know WHAT we base this (Immaculate Conception) belief on, then you should have asked THAT question.
To: Pelayo
I think you must have me confused with Iowegian. I didn't ask the question in question. : ) See #1392.
To: Pelayo
"The Church has always professed her belief in the perpetual virginity of Mary. The most ancient texts, when referring to the conception of Jesus, call Mary simply "virgin", inferring that they considered this quality a permanent fact with regard to her whole life. . .
"The expression "ever virgin" was taken up by the Second Council of Constantinople (553), which affirms: the Word of God, "incarnate of the holy and glorious Mother of God and ever virgin Mary, was born of her" (DS 422). This doctrine is confirmed by two other Ecumenical Councils, the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) (DS 801) and the Second Council of Lyons (1274) (DS 852), and by the text of the definition of the dogma of the Assumption (1950) (DS 3903) in which Mary's perpetual virginity is adopted as one of the reasons why she was taken up in body and soul to heavenly glory."
(Pope John Paul II, General Audience, August 28, 1996; reported by Catholic Information Network)
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The most ancient texts, when referring to the conception of Jesus, call Mary simply "virgin", inferring that they considered this quality a permanent fact with regard to her whole life. . .
"Inferring". Really? Very powerful, positive choice of a word isn't it?
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"The expression "ever virgin" was taken up by the Second Council of Constantinople (553
The date speaks for itself. Isn't it great we have "Magesterium" to fall back on when all else fails.
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