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To: allend
Harking back to the glory days of the Twelve Apostles is nice, but unless you can say that the same unity in truth continues to the present, you're still looking at an apparent failure of Jesus' prophecy: (Excuse me? )

"I do not ask in behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word; that they may all be one; even as Thou, Father, art in Me, and I in Thee, that they also may be in Us; that the world may believe that Thou didst send Me."

86 posted on 10/15/01 2:02 PM Mountain by allen

Jn. 17:19 For them I sanctify myself, that they too may be truly sanctified.

We are blood-washed sinners. John 17:19

Jn. 17:20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who
will believe in me through their message,

Jn. 17:21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and
I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.

My understanding is that not for the apostles only, but for all who shall be converted under the preaching of the gospel.

Tehillim (Psalm) 18:46 The LORD lives! Praise be to my Rock! Exalted be God my Saviour!

XeniaSt

143 posted on 10/15/2001 4:12:19 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012
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To: XeniaSt
Jn. 17:20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,

Jn. 17:21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you.

May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.

Great, "through their message" now what could that mean?

146 posted on 10/15/2001 4:22:08 PM PDT by JHavard
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