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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
"Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Mary? And his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? And his sisters, are they not all with us?" (Mt. 13:55-56).

Mary was very busy and had a lot more than these few children, didn't she?

After that He was seen by over five hundred brethren at once... (1Cor 15:6)

And that doesn't even include all his sisters.

1,138 posted on 10/18/2001 10:12:06 PM PDT by Titanites
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To: Titanites
Hi Titanites, thanks for jumping in here. Feel free to stick around! New posters are always welcome.
1,142 posted on 10/18/2001 10:51:51 PM PDT by malakhi
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Its a duck, no its not a duck, but it walks like a duck, no it does not walk like a duck, it quacks like a duck, no it does not quack like a duck, its a duck, no its not a duck.

BigMack

1,145 posted on 10/18/2001 11:02:50 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: Titanites
Mary was very busy and had a lot more than these few children, didn't she? "After that He was seen by over five hundred brethren at once... "(1Cor 15:6).... And that doesn't even include all his sisters.

Now THAT is funny!

1,150 posted on 10/19/2001 12:40:22 AM PDT by hopefulpilgrim
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To: Titanites
After that He was seen by over five hundred brethren at once... (1Cor 15:6)

And that doesn't even include all his sisters.

This is the first of your post that I have seen, and right now I have no idea what your agenda is, but regardless, that was one of the funniest comments I have seen on the "brother" question. ROTFLMBO :-)

1,172 posted on 10/19/2001 7:14:15 AM PDT by JHavard
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After that He was seen by over five hundred brethren at once... (1Cor 15:6)

Context provides the definition of the words, not vice versa. So, the burden would seem to be upon the people who read the Matthew passage as speaking of his non-nuclear-family relatives. To be as succint as possible, the question is: Why would the townspeople try to point out Jesus' humble origins by saying "Hey, that's just Jesus. We know who his mom and his cousins are?"

The meaning that most people would take from a plain reading is that they list Mary, his mother, and his siblings. As for SoothingDave's argument that we know these people's real parents from other Scripture he would have to establish that the people being spoken of here are indeed the ones we know by the same names elsewhere.

1,186 posted on 10/19/2001 7:54:51 AM PDT by the808bass
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To: Titanites
"Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Mary? And his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? And his sisters, are they not all with us?" (Mt. 13:55-56). Mary was very busy and had a lot more than these few children, didn't she?

After that He was seen by over five hundred brethren at once... (1Cor 15:6)

And that doesn't even include all his sisters.


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Which Bible are you using? I can find the common usage of "Brethren" in the KJV and Douay-Rheims. All modern "approved" versions use "Brother" in Matt 13:55.

Let's look a little closer at Matt. 13:

54 Coming to his hometown, he began teaching the people in their synagogue, and they were amazed. "Where did this man get this wisdom and these miraculous powers?" they asked.

55 "Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't his mother's name Mary, and aren't his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas?

56 Aren't all his sisters with us? Where then did this man get all these things?"
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Coming to his hometown there were so few "brothers" in his hometown that they could be named individually???

They could not, of course, have been among these hometown "brothers"?????? Who were they then, sisters or strangers who just happened to visit the synagogue?

As for 1 Corinthians, read all of it for context, then twist it to imply "brethren" or "brothers" are used in the same way as in Matthew 13. Good job!
1,192 posted on 10/19/2001 8:10:23 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE
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