Posted on 10/15/2001 6:54:40 AM PDT by malakhi
| Statesmen may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue. - John Adams |
I know that the Nation of Islam considered to be a fringe, 'wacko' sect by many muslims. Kind of a cross between fundamentalist Islam, black nationalism, and Heaven's Gate. Calypso Louie has some odd ideas about UFO's.
When you get a moment would you either post the references for the non-unanimous passages or a link to a site that would have that information? Is that part of what makes up the Talmud, a bunch of Rabbis arguing over the meaning of different verses? If that is what the Talmud is then it almost sounds like "TNS (The Jewish Chronicles)" ;^)
Thanks for putting up with my questions.
-ksen
Worked for Japan for a long time.
SD
Directly to God in prayer.
And how do you enter into the place of worship where this can take place?
God is everywhere. I talk to Him wherever I am.
There is one way between God and man, The Way. There are many broken and humble buddahists and muslims, but they are broken before false gods. Any god approached, apart from Christ, is a false god. and not The God, Jehovah. He has turned His ears from those who reject His Son.
Yes, I know you believe this. I disagree. Just because you believe this does not make it true.
NCs tend to criticize Catholics for putting priests, Mary, or other saints in between them and Jesus. They say that there is no mediator except Jesus between God and man. Jews take this same logic one step further. We believe that we can approach God directly, that we need no mediator between God and us.
Stars lost Modano last night. Not too serious, though. His goal during one of the Avs' powerplays was very impressive... you gotta admit that.
Nuggets are just a lost cause.
But they put on a decent show last night.
I'll see what I can do, although I can't think of anyplace offhand that has a list of all these disputed passages in one place.
Is that part of what makes up the Talmud, a bunch of Rabbis arguing over the meaning of different verses?
Yes, in part.
If that is what the Talmud is then it almost sounds like "TNS (The Jewish Chronicles)" ;^)
LOL! A good analogy. ;o)
It is my feeling that the Nation of Islam is merely a cover for the black nationalism. It is an act, an attempt to be provocative, to spit in the face of the American mainstream. Since America is a predominately Christian country, the black seperatists choose to be "Islmaic" for the shock value.
Little of this is to be confused with actual Islam.
SD
Most of his goals are impressive. As good as he is I'd still rather have Sakic.
I guess if you're just cheering when you hear the news that 3,000 americans are dead that wouldn't make one violent.
Sigh. Two things, one already mentioned. Back in the day, not too long ago, various Christian factions were very cruel and warlike. This must make Christianity a religion of war, no? What about those fine Christians who helped wipe out and dislocate the native peoples of this continent? I'm sure the Indians felt that Christianity was a peaceful religion. As long as you did whatever the white man said, that is.
Second, Have you ever cheered upon hearing of the US dropping bombs on Iraq or Libya?
SD
Most of his goals are impressive. As good as he is I'd still rather have Sakic.
Anybody you guys don't want, we'll be happy to take 'em in Pittsburgh.
SD
Second, Have you ever cheered upon hearing of the US dropping bombs on Iraq or Libya?
Thanks SD. Appreciate the back up. Like the allusion. Never thought of it in those terms before.
Second, Have you ever cheered upon hearing of the US dropping bombs on Iraq or Libya?
I wasn't out in the street waving my hands. Another difference. I wouldn't be happy if we were targeting civilians although I know that some civilian casualties cannot be helped.
Just wait around a couple of years and you're sure to get some of the Stars ... they are the oldest team on average in the NHL.
A good all-around player.
It's what's in the heart that counts, right?
Another difference. I wouldn't be happy if we were targeting civilians although I know that some civilian casualties cannot be helped.
OK, fair enough.
Now what about the historical questions? Wouldn't you be forced to view Christianity as a violent religion just a few hundred years ago? Is it possible that a deeper understanding of Islam can emerge, as a deeper Christian one already has? We did get a 600 year head start on being civilizied.
SD
A good all-around player.
Just think of what this guy's done in the last year. A Stanley cup, A league MVP, an olympic Gold Medal and Olympics MVP. Not to mention 15 mil a year.
What about the Aaronic priesthood? I thought God chose to use them as mediators between the nation Israel and Himself. After all, not just anybody could enter the Holy of Holies and go into the direct presence of God. Only the High-Priest could do that, and then he could only do that once a year.
-ksen
I'm not denying Christianity can be perceived as a violent religion. I'm not accusing one and discounting the other.
Is it possible that a deeper understanding of Islam can emerge, as a deeper Christian one already has?
Yes. But I'd feel alot better if at least 1 out of 100 muslim leaders would come out denounce the actions of their "militant" brothers. That has not happened.
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