Posted on 10/15/2001 6:54:40 AM PDT by malakhi
| Statesmen may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue. - John Adams |
What he says is infallible. How he lives isn't. Sure easy to put those two together.
Good point.
Welcome back. i'm glad all things are going well. Sarah now has two teeth on the bottom and a third expected to break through on top any day now. She said "I love you" the other day. No kidding. She is 9 months old today. That's way too young to be putting together that many syllables, but she repeated it after her mother said it.
Amazing, isn't it? We like to joke that Hannah's first word was Netanyahu. Well, it sounded like that anyway. Seriously, though, she never ceases to amaze me. At 16months, she can count to 10, says "I love you, too" (but sounds like "I loooo, too"), knows a lot of the basic colors, shapes, body parts (no, Mack ... not those parts ;o) ) and other stuff, and her memory is just remarkable.
Enjoy it, Dave ... it gets even better as they grow.
Good point I hadn't thought of Jonah and will. I was thinking about what Peter must have been thinking on his way and you almost have to laugh. For instance, how in the world can this be? The fish I'm about to catch could be one in many thousands. What if I stop to relieve myself? What if the first one slips from my hand, will the money be in the second? It is truly endless my friend. I'm with you, it does seem there must be a connection elsewhere in scripture and that is what I want to find. Thanks for the input, have a great weekend.
Here's the really scary part. Sharon said "I love you, Sarah," and Sarah responded "I love you, too." That's what it sounded like anyway, clear as day. So she didn't just parrot the words, it seemed like she added her own word onto the end.
SD
Well, nobody's officially giving up, but it seems our 11 year playoff run is over. And there's still 5 months until Steeler camp opens.
SD
I infered from your posts that you thought the Catholic Church, as a whole to be a corrupted institution.
One more time---please read carefully, ok?
Yes, I do believe the Roman Catholic church as a whole to be a corrupted institution, by and large, as I have stated numberous times(didn't you see them?), the Roman Catholic church is corrupted by a corrupted gospel, that is in essence another gospel from the Gospel defined in Scripture and taught by the Apostles. The Roman Catholic church is also corrupted by it's many false doctrines, most notably, Mariology, praying to saints, praying to angels, Mary as coredemptrix, coadvocate, comediatrix, queen of heaven, etc, etc.
BTW, those who have believed a false gospel are also numbered among the "wicked".
Now, do I believe that most papists are morally bankrupt? Not devout papists. However, no matter what moral condition one is in, such as a morally decent Buddhist, papist, protestant or Hindu, if they don't have the right Gospel, then they are still relegated to outer darkness.
But your charge of "pattern of evil" about the members is, admittedly not far off the mark. However, it's true of the entirety of Christianity, all denominations included, people have been sinning since Adam and Eve(the beginning of the "pattern of evil"). Heck, even Judas, an apostle of Christ, sinned something fierce.
The "sin nature" is not the "pattern of evil" that I was referring to, now was it?
However, if one is walking in the habitual, ongoing, continuous practice of sin, say of "adultery" as an example, and does not repent, then they are living a life of open rebellion against God, and just as St. John says, If we say(that is, profess with our mouths) we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.
Romans 6:1-2, What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin(that is the ongoing, continuous, habitual practice of being a slave to sin) that grace may abound? Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin continue to live any longer in it?
Romans 6:14-16, For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace. What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not! Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one's slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness?
Sins of the "sin nature" that Christians fall into, but yet repent of(turning from the habitual practice of) and confess under the conviction of the Holy Spirit, is not the same as one who proves their dead faith by living a continous, ongoing, habitual slavery to sin without benefit of true repentance---that is what St. Paul calls, "sin leading to death".
Lunchtime---later. Maranantha
Again, you know she's not resting in some part of creation? Such knowledge is too wonderful for me. Where did you get it?
If you wish to believe Heaven is unpopulated, that is your perogative. I prefer to think of it as outside of time. If I was assured of your perseverance and thought you'd help out an old sparring partner I could pray to you in Heaven right now. What difference does earth time mean?
SD
I don't know. Since you're the ones who do it wrong, I'll let you tell me! ;-)
Is that my real complaint? Oh scratch that. I forgot, you don't answer questions.
I don't know. Since you're the ones who do it wrong, I'll let you tell me!
I think it is indicative of the schism. If we face north and cross ourselves, our arms both end up reaching towards each other. If we head south, our arms end up moving away.
SD
They did actually win last night, to snap an 8 game slide. But they need to make up 8 points and vault over three teams just to secure the 8th position.
SD
You do habitually throw things out there that arent true. I don't appreciate it. Did I state that I knew for sure where the souls of men abide after death? No. Neither do you. You can prefer to believe things all you want but you really don't know.
Did I ever mention the Colorado Avalanche are the defending Stanley Cup Champions?
Vive Les Nordiques!
SD
You do habitually throw things out there that arent true. I don't appreciate it. Did I state that I knew for sure where the souls of men abide after death? No. Neither do you. You can prefer to believe things all you want but you really don't know.
I'm sorry if I mischaracterized what you were saying. I thought you were arguing the opposite of me, not that you were arguing a "we can't be sure" position.
You should then recognize that my beliefs are then not inconsistent with the understanding of Scripture, if no one really knows for sure.
SD
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