Posted on 10/15/2001 6:54:40 AM PDT by malakhi
| Statesmen may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue. - John Adams |
Will do. Mildew. :-)
My wife was in labor 22 hours with the 1st one and only 4 hours for the 2nd. Hope that helps.
SD
This practice could be problematic in that some have different gifts of the Spirit at different times in their life. For example, one might not posses the gift of "the word of knowledge" in their 20's but all of the sudden they have it in their 40's. So having one ceremony whereby one receives a 7-fold gifts of the Spirit package seems too ridgid and formal to me. We as christians should make it a continual practice to lay hands on and pray for one another.
That may well be tradition, but in scripture it seems that laying on of hands either imparts the holy spirit or is used in healing.
I could only find one place where "the laying of hands" was done for something other than those purposes:
Act 6:1 And in those days, the disciples having multiplied, a murmuring of the Hellenists against the Hebrews occurred, because their widows were overlooked in the daily serving.
Act 6:2 And the Twelve called near the multitude of the disciples and said, It is not pleasing to us, leaving the Word of God, to serve tables.
Act 6:3 Therefore, brothers, look out among you seven men being witnessed to, full of the Holy Spirit and wisdom, whom we may appoint over this duty.
Act 6:4 But we will give ourselves continually to prayer and to the ministry of the Word.
Act 6:5 And the saying pleased all the multitude. And they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Spirit, and Philip, and Prochorus, and Nicanor, and Timon, and Parmenas, and Nicholas, a proselyte of Antioch.
Act 6:6 They set these before the apostles. And having prayed, they laid hands on them.
If this is to be considered a confirmation, then the seven people here were confirmed to be food servers.
I wholeheartedly agree.
Or Eucharistic ministers.
SD
By the way my confirmation name is Albert. :-) It was decided upon one night while my parents were playing poker with my sponser. lol.
Or Eucharistic ministers.
I believe the Catholic Church cites this passage as scripture support for the office of deacon.
You shouldn't oughtta said that, Albert. ;o)
Oh ya? So what was yours?
Makes sense. Since one of the Deacon's chief duties is being Master of the Chalice, he is the one who serves the Precious Blood to the congregation.
SD
I was referring to the verses from Acts 8 that you posted earlier. I believe the verses from chapter 6 that you just quoted are ordinations of Deacons.
I know one man named Albert. He is a very nice man. We Anglicans don't give confirmation names. I have no idea where that practice came from or why we don't do it.
Must be some devious popery. :-)
The concept is to select a saint's name whom you would like to emulate and/or have as your protector. Probably the saint connection gave someone the heebie jeebies.
SD
Maybe my understanding is wrong, but the way I've interpeted 6:1 is to mean that formerly the Jews were supplying the needs of the widows since they had nobody to supply them with food. Once they became Christians, the Jews no longer took care of them and Christians took over the load. So the apostles appointed people especially to serve them since they were a little overworked themselves.
Is the purpose of a deacon to serve food to widows in a Jewish temple?
Yeah. It took me a whole post to admit it. You on the other hand have been blathering on with your pet theory for what? 15-20 posts now.
If Webster's lists "philosophy" as coming from the Greek meaning literally "love of wisdom", and "theosophy" as "god of wisdom", how can you disagree with "theotokos" as meaning literally "god of usury or god of interest on money loaned"
People do this sort of ignorant thing so often that they have a special name for it. It's called a root fallacy. That is when you ascribe a meaning to a word based upon combining the roots of the word. Like making hippopotamus a horse that lives in the river (from "hippos" (horse) and "potamos" (river)). Yes, theotokos could conceivably mean god of usury. Now, if you'd like to show me one instance of such a usage within the corpus of Greek work, I'd be delighted to respond further.
"Theotokos" means literally "God of usury, or God of interest on money loaned" or by extension "God of moneylenders or moneychangers"
See, I gave you a hint and everything and you ignored it. "Theo" is masculine and thus precludes it being ascribed to Mary. If Mary was the sole referent of the word you just made up, it should be spelled theatokos. You just made Mary the masculine god of the moneychangers. This goes back to the whole context argument. Dictionaries are not hard and fast. They did not exist before the language. When the first Greeks spoke they did not pull out their "Linear B to Greek dictionary" to see what words were equivalent in this strange new language. Is any of this seeping in? You are giving a good impersonation of a box of rocks.
Actually, it was angelo! I liked the name, so, unable to think of anything clever, I used it for my freeper moniker.
Becky, what about you? Were you confirmed, and if so, what was your confirmation name?
Any other XCs?
Too bad, it is so much fun to beat up on another NC once in a while just to show we are a non discriminating bunch of fellows, and an equal opportunity basher.
Woodkirk, if you read this consider that since all the stones were gone, I just heaved a shoe at you.
Bad Woodkirk, Bad Bad Bad. (^g^) JH
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