The Neverending Story (The New Christian Chronicles)

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[malakhi]

The Neverending Story
An ongoing debate on Scripture, Tradition, History and Interpretation.

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[Havoc]

what subjects do you use for your art?

Right now? None. No interest and no inspiration. I'm too busy with remodelling one home and preparing to buy a new one.

[SoothingDave]

Since Jesus was our savior, didn't he have the right to do what ever he wanted to do, and felt that was best?

He sure does. Except in all things He appeared to be an observant Jew. I don't see why he would play the "God Card" on this one issue instead of doing what the Law says should be done.

Since you don't believe in Christ as our savior, I guess you can't objectively answer this.

Actually none of us can "objectively" answer this. We think He's God so that colors our answer. Angelo doesn't so that colors his. We would need to find someone who absolutely doesn't care to find someone "objective." Angelo is speaking here as an expert on what a normal Jew would do vis-a-vis the Law.

SD

[SoothingDave]

What would be an example of a permissable subject for art, given the 2nd Commandment?

SD

[malakhi]

If it was you, and your mother was in need of being cared for, and you had non believing brothers who you didn't trust since they didn't believe in God, and you found out you had a month to live, who would you turn her over to, your brothers, or a fellow catholic friend you knew and loved and he also knew and loved your mother?

It doesn't matter what the person in this situation thinks. The brothers have an obligation under the Law to care for their mother. If you have evidence from scripture that the brothers didn't believe in God, please present it.

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

lol

Becky

[Havoc]

Even in a normal 'non-virgin' birth, no mother makes a baby. God creates life; we merely cooperate.

You understand that, Angelo. And I understand that; but, the idolaters do not.

[malakhi]

If God, through the human authors of Scripture, had ever referred to her as "the mother of God," it would be different

And why is this granted me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? (Luke 1:43)

[Havoc]

Vehicle and building design, Calligraphy, I'd say anything that doesn't lend itself to worship. If it will be paid undue respect, it is a no-no.

[SoothingDave]

You understand that, Angelo. And I understand that; but, the idolaters do not.

Speak for yourself.

SD

[malakhi]

What if they have removed themselves? What if they are not financially able?

Where is the evidence that this is the case? Speculation on your part.

Since Jesus was our savior, didn't he have the right to do what ever he wanted to do, and felt that was best?

That's a different argument than saying that the firstborn had the authority to delegate care of his mother to someone other than his brothers. Sure, he could say this, but that doesn't remove the obligation under the Law for the brothers to see to it themselves.

[JHavard]

That's the way the Semitic languages work.

Maybe that wasn't ten different directions was it?

SD, you are so clever, I spent a half an hour on that post, and you blew it out of the water with two little sentences, and ten seconds of your time.

I wish I was as clever as you.....NOT!

[dadwags]

#1281
Dave, when you have the Thrashers and Falcons, the only thing left is the Braves .At least they win a game now and then , notwithstanding "captain Outrageous".

[SoothingDave]

SD, you are so clever, I spent a half an hour on that post, and you blew it out of the water with two little sentences, and ten seconds of your time. I wish I was as clever as you.....NOT!

And yet none of that speaks against my Occam's Razor usage. Do you understand that that's how people in Semitic cultures and languages talked?

SD

[SoothingDave]

Dave, when you have the Thrashers and Falcons, the only thing left is the Braves .At least they win a game now and then , notwithstanding "captain Outrageous".

But you could go to a Thrashers game and root for fights.

(And meet all the local Yankees, no doubt.)

SD

[malakhi]

Hey everyone,

I've actually got to get some work done in the next few hours, so I'm signing off. I'll check in tomorrow night. Shabbat Shalom!

[Invincibly Ignorant]

Mary gave birth to Jesus. Jesus is God. Therefore, Mary gave birth to God. A => B B => C Therefore, A => C If you accept the two premises, the conclusion logically follows. Fundies just can't stand stuff like this, can they?

1:24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: 1:25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

A-took unto him his wife

B-knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son:

=C-Still his wife after Jesus was born

Caddies just can't stand stuff like this, can they?

[SoothingDave]

Vehicle and building design, Calligraphy, I'd say anything that doesn't lend itself to worship. If it will be paid undue respect, it is a no-no.

I guess you can't design any really cool cars, cause people tend to worship them.

SD

[SoothingDave]

Still his wife after Jesus was born

Caddies just can't stand stuff like this, can they?

You think that we think that Joseph and Mary weren't married?

SD