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ACCIDENTAL TIMING
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Posted on 10/14/2001 4:45:07 PM PDT by Zoey

ACCIDENTAL TIMING

"Accidental President," the new book about the 2000 presidential election, had an auspicious launch: a cover story excerpt featured on the cover of Newsweek, plus an appearance by author David Kaplan on "Today." Both highlighted Kaplan's disclosures of comments made by Supreme Court justices in the aftermath of Bush v. Gore.

But that media spotlight shone on Sept. 10, and the terrorist attacks of the next day halted the book's momentum in its tracks. Now, however, there is new buzz of a less positive kind.

Letters to the editor challenging the accuracy of Kaplan's account of two of the justices' remarks appeared last week in both Newsweek and The Washington Post, its sister publication that ran a story about the book.

In the book, Kaplan said Justice David Souter expressed frustration during a meeting with students from Choate, the Connecticut prep school, a month after the decision. "One more day -- one more day," Souter lamented, and he could have persuaded Justice Kennedy to vote against Bush and flip the outcome.

Choate government teacher Zachary Goodyear, in his letter to the editor of the Post, said, "Justice David Souter never made such a comment" to the students. Goodyear said he checked his own memory as well as that of "the only other adult who was present," in addition to hearing directly and indirectly from other students who also said they could not recall such a statement. A similar letter from Goodyear appeared in Newsweek.

The other letter sought to refute a statement Kaplan attributed to Justice Stephen Breyer, from a meeting with Russian judges not long after Bush v. Gore. At various times, all the justices except Souter and Clarence Thomas met with the judges. Kaplan quotes the comments about Bush v. Gore made by several justices at the sessions, but the most remarkable one is from Breyer, who purportedly said the decision was "the most outrageous, indefensible thing" the Court had ever done.

"We can certify that Justice Breyer said nothing of the kind," said Southern Methodist University Law School Dean John Attanasio and New York University School of Law professor Stephen Holmes in a letter to the Post. The two claim they checked with Breyer, Sandra Day O'Connor, and Anthony Kennedy, as well as faculty colleagues, and none could recall the Breyer comment. A parallel letter in Newsweek, written by Holmes alone, mentions checking with Ruth Bader Ginsburg and John Paul Stevens as well. Neither letter questions the quotes attributed to other justices.

Kaplan, a well-regarded Newsweek senior writer, stands by the quotes, as do Newsweek and the book's publisher, William Morrow. In a telephone interview last week, he declined to discuss his confidential sources or the fact-checking done afterward. If he spells out who he did or did not talk to, Kaplan explained, his sources could be discovered eventually by process of elimination.

But he said his sources for both quotes "were in the room and heard the remarks. They were specific in their recall, and it was relatively contemporaneous."

Kaplan added that both Souter and Breyer "were given a chance to respond, beforehand, several times. Neither have responded yet."


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Letters to the editor challenging the accuracy of Kaplan's account of two of the justices' remarks appeared last week in both Newsweek and The Washington Post

Are the democraps making sh*t up now?

1 posted on 10/14/2001 4:45:07 PM PDT by Zoey
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To: Zoey
Of what importance is the truth to a Deomocrat, after all they believe that government officials while under oath and in court are entitled to lie( at least if they happen to be democrats).
2 posted on 10/14/2001 4:52:20 PM PDT by Free the USA
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To: Zoey; Romulus
Neither have responded yet

Isn't 'neither' singular?

3 posted on 10/14/2001 4:53:55 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: Zoey
"...Are the democraps making sh*t up now?..."

A democrat is lying even when they use words like: 'a', 'the' and 'or'.

The only truth that ever comes out of a democrat’s mouth is the occasional bit needed to cement two lies together, end to end.

The bastards just got caught doing it a little more artlessly this time.

4 posted on 10/14/2001 4:54:00 PM PDT by DWSUWF
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To: Zoey
My question is this:
Why don't the Justices come out and say whether or not they said anything or not?
I don't understand their silence in this.
5 posted on 10/14/2001 4:54:50 PM PDT by StayoutdaBushesWay
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To: Zoey
I call it Newspeak magazine and I don't generally read it anymore. Stick with You Snooze and World Retorts.
6 posted on 10/14/2001 4:59:10 PM PDT by Gordian Blade
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To: DWSUWF
You don't understand their silence??? It seems to me they followed Momma's advice:

Don't enter a debate with pathological liars.

7 posted on 10/14/2001 5:02:23 PM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: aposiopetic
yes
8 posted on 10/14/2001 5:04:35 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Zoey
Think Bernard Kalb has written a book about the vast right wing conspiracy out to get clinton during the monica scandals......how funny are these moroons.........
9 posted on 10/14/2001 5:06:16 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: Zoey
Everyone lies about............... ummmm............................... elections.
10 posted on 10/14/2001 5:08:09 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Dogbert41
Don't enter a debate with pathological liars.

And a hell of a lot of the reports in both the Washington Post and Newsweek are pure lies.

One can not win an argument with a lying media. They own the paper and the magazine. They always get the last word and can distort any thing a justice might say.

If fact if a Justice were to talk to them, they would just lie about what the Justice said.

11 posted on 10/14/2001 5:10:42 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: aposiopetic
No, it's plural as in "neither [of the two] have responded" - the subject's number is understood by the meaning of the word "neither" itself.
12 posted on 10/14/2001 5:14:13 PM PDT by Anochka
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To: Anochka
Just think what his sequel will be on the New York's Mayors race in the Democratic primary
13 posted on 10/14/2001 5:29:59 PM PDT by meenie
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To: Anochka
If you expand it to say "Neither of the two has responded," you still have a singular subject, followed by a modifying phrase, which therefore calls for a singular verb, since the verb always refers back to the subject. You might think of it as "Neither one of the two judges has responded."
14 posted on 10/14/2001 5:31:00 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: Zoey
Are the democraps making sh*t up now?

Whaddya mean, "now"??

15 posted on 10/14/2001 5:36:49 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: 1rudeboy; Anochka; Cicero; Romulus
I agree with Cicero's explanation and 1rudeboy's conclusion. I trust that the other esteemed Roman will correct me if I am wrong; certainly he will recall my outspoken criticism of a rather cumbersome diatribe written by Ann Coulter a few months ago.
16 posted on 10/14/2001 5:41:17 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: Zoey
"...he declined to discuss his confidential sources or the fact-checking done afterward. If he spells out who he did or did not talk to, Kaplan explained, his sources could be discovered eventually by process of elimination."


You can print anything you want as long as you do not have to provide the source. Doesn't mean we have to believe them.

Remember, the "media" is not our friend.

;-}

17 posted on 10/14/2001 5:42:28 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: Gordian Blade
Stick with You Snooze and World Retorts.

I guess I've been pronouncing it wrong. I always called it "U.S. Screws The World Report".

Actually, I think all three of the major newsmagazines are (1) too liberal, and (2) of such poor quality, that I won't read them even in a doctor's waiting room. Fortunately, Internet news sources have rendered them completely unnecessary for anyone who's connected.

18 posted on 10/14/2001 5:47:31 PM PDT by Joe Bonforte
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To: Zoey
Naw, the Democrats wouldn't do that!
19 posted on 10/14/2001 5:51:56 PM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: aposiopetic
You have the same problem with "none." None have sounds correct, but "none" is is the the proper formulation. Of course, times change . . . .
20 posted on 10/14/2001 5:54:36 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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