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Nerve poison in tomato crates
Sueddeutsche Zeitung ^ | Friday, 10.12.2001 | Christiane Kohl

Posted on 10/13/2001 1:05:58 PM PDT by ChowChowFace

Nerve poison in tomato crates

Hearing minutes in Italy occupy the terror plans progressed already far

By Christiane Kohl

Rome - speak with the sheikh, then Mach ' I already that ", says the voice on the volume: "I do not need an army, only two people, but those must be well trained", continue to chat the male voice: "the Libyer and the Kurd from Rome", those would be probably correct. "then I need only new papers and the ten-litre barrel", continue the voice: "God is with us, I is sure that I create it."

The voice belongs to the Libyer arrested in Munich, which is to the terror net of Osama shop to belong is to Lased Ben Heni. In its dwelling in Galarate with Varese in north Italy security forceses had platziert for months micro pion. Which they took up thereby at information, led now to the arrests. Except the Libyer Ben Heni arrested in Munich determined Italian policemen in Milan Mohammed Aouadi Ben Belgacem, 26, and Benstaali Mohammed Fuad, 38, - the Tunesier was gotten before the May countries mosque in the via Jenner. A third Tunesier - the 31-jaehrige Riadh Jelassi - had been already arrested in August because of an autotheft.

Training for Kamikaze actions

Strictly legally the arrested one in Italy only the education of a criminal combination is accused, to falsification of documents as well as offence against the einwanderungsgesetz. But the police is sure that you succeeded an impact against an important terror ring. The Ermittler assume that the group is the terror net shop supported, as falsified papers were procured and young people for its training camp and later Kamikaze actions were recruited. "to exclude" Claudio Scajola is not besides after the words of Minister of the Interior that the arresting planned "concrete terrorist raids".

As head already in the spring arrested a man, the 31-jaehrige Tunesier Essid Sami Ben Khenais is considered to the Italian gang. To the terror ring is besides a still volatile Egyptian to belong, who the Ermittler in France waehnen. The man could have been active as a courier between Italy and France, where according to a hypothesis of the Ermittler a chemical laboratory is for the production of explosives or chemical weapons. Except to France and Germany those are to have maintained a suspecting also contacts to groupings in England and Algeria.

Already in April the authorities in Milan and environment had arrested five Tunesier, after the determinations are them all together member of one of those 27 organizations, which be-load the Americans now as to net duly marked. Besides the five at that time arresting are to have been complicated in preparations for the notice on the Strassburger Weihnachtsmarkt in December 2000. The likewise in April arrested Ben Khenais, which they called in the group of "Umar the travelers", is to have telephoned several times with different Topterroristen, which are to have prepared the Strassburger notice.

Ben Khenais had its location in the city Busto Arsizio, close with the airport Malpensa, about 30 kilometers northwest from Milan, where also Riadh Jelassi lived. Jelassi came obviously coincidentally after an autotheft into the visor of the Ermittler. Ben Khenais and the Lased Ben Heni arrested in Munich however stood obviously already longer under purposeful observation. Apparent met the two frequent in the dwelling of Ben Heni in the place Galarate, which lies likewise not far from Malpensa. Meanwhile the Ermittler had platziert with Ben Heni in the dwelling micro pion: If Ben Khenais and Ben Heni spoke with one another, the order guardians monitored frequently.

Good contacts to China

From hearing minutes the Roman newspaper Repubblica quotes a discussion between Ben Khenais and Ben Heni, in which it could have concerned a chemical notice. Ben Heni: "now the barrel with the liquid stands on the program." Ben Khenais: "want as, their that to try?" Ben Heni: "why not, a few barrels." Ben Khenais: "where, in France?" Ben Heni: ", with the lady, that is simple." Ben Khenais: "is that a better product than the other one?" Ben Heni: "it is more efficient, because, if one opens this liquid, it becomes immediately effectively for humans." Later they do not call "Sinsinem" or "Sinsinam", for which it acted thereby, the material know the Ermittler yet. The two speak also of it that the material can be transported well in tomato crates, for their effectiveness are important that the substance is pressurized. A breath poison camouflaged in tomato crates - so far the considerations had already prospered. However the unknown substance was tried out never "in the field", quotes Repubblica a Ermittler.

Still another second important trace can obvious be constituted from hearing minutes: It leads to China. Thus the May countries Corriere della Sera quotes a heard sentence, according to which are shop "good contacts" to China has. According to hearing minutes from March this yearly is to have said Ben Heni for example to an interlocutor opposite: "in its (are shop) group, which studies the weapons of the Americans, there are also Chinese professors."


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The original article is in German and the translation is a little rough, but you can get a general idea.

This is scary stuff!!
1 posted on 10/13/2001 1:05:58 PM PDT by ChowChowFace
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To: ChowChowFace
surely yoda can do more than just translate? such as stop them?

dep

2 posted on 10/13/2001 1:10:20 PM PDT by dep
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To: ChowChowFace
I'd love to understand what this is all about, I know its very inappropriate but I just taken take something with so many translation errors seriously... :-)

Please, could we try and get another translation of this, cause from what I can glean, it could be interesting....

3 posted on 10/13/2001 1:12:48 PM PDT by maquiladora
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To: maquiladora
Sounds rather like the intercepted phone call that FOX news has been reporting, they said it was from European 'sources'.
4 posted on 10/13/2001 1:14:41 PM PDT by Mahone
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To: maquiladora
Another Partial Translation
5 posted on 10/13/2001 1:18:45 PM PDT by ChowChowFace
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To: ChowChowFace
It reads like a Milorad Pavic novel...
6 posted on 10/13/2001 1:19:38 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: ChowChowFace
Interested in all chinese leads. Keep me posted please.
7 posted on 10/13/2001 1:22:43 PM PDT by Soul Citizen
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To: Soul Citizen
Have you heard any more on why Bush is going to China next week?
8 posted on 10/13/2001 1:24:11 PM PDT by Nora
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To: ChowChowFace
sorry. can't even get the general idea. bad translation.
9 posted on 10/13/2001 2:00:15 PM PDT by wildwood
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To: ChowChowFace
About this is initial posting not quite, but parentheses do tell the strike of what their lamps are for.

Brilliant shine is for the dog of the far post, but something to chime the wicked steel prong needs getting.

10 posted on 10/13/2001 2:02:15 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: ChowChowFace
Huh? Don’t eat tomatoes on Chinaware? The Crates are invading Strassburg? What should I do? Are cucumbers ok?
11 posted on 10/13/2001 2:07:20 PM PDT by Fred25
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To: ChowChowFace
This one sounds like a plot to smuggle nerve gas into France in tomato crates.
12 posted on 10/13/2001 3:58:07 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: ChowChowFace
No more homemade sauce............
13 posted on 10/13/2001 4:48:33 PM PDT by b4its2late
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To: b4its2late
I feel like going out and getting a pizza at Sbarro's. Anybody wanna come along???
14 posted on 10/13/2001 4:50:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: ChowChowFace
Thanks for the translation.

These guys are re-enraging me.

I' getting damned fed up with these terrorist twits.

Nuke 'em!

15 posted on 10/13/2001 4:54:25 PM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: ChowChowFace
--good post, thanks! had no trouble understanding it, been in georgia long enough I can speak yankee, ebonics and bubba equally well, so this was a cinch!

Yep, pressurized gas, easy to smuggle, chinee professors studying american weapons (in the camps/shops/workshops)

Yep, part deux, I keep saying wait until the US profits made from china turn into a net debit once they hit. The islamics are underpaid, fanatical and mostly lamer, the chinese are professionals, determined, and have no choice except to expand in a big way, directly into the oil fields. They will either neutralise the US, or bribe and blackmail us enough on the side so we cave, if we keep up trade with them and allow "patriotic US" slap "international profits are everything" companies to develop their infrastructure for them.

16 posted on 10/13/2001 4:56:26 PM PDT by zog
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To: Illbay
This is scary stuff, but your post had me guffawing so loudly my husband came in to ask if I was okay. Thanks for the grin! ;o)
17 posted on 10/13/2001 7:07:30 PM PDT by shezza
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To: ChowChowFace
English discussion of same topic
18 posted on 10/13/2001 7:14:15 PM PDT by EaglesUpForever
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To: shezza
Glad fartings come forth in the telling of that sure-footed tale. In hopes that your spouse regrets the putting forth the noxious weeds in jest as indigo in May, happy sounds are in the gloaming.
19 posted on 10/13/2001 7:47:54 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: Nora
I could only speculate, I assume it would be to debate coalition interests and post war status of relationships, as well as piracy in the south China Sea.

Of which China has been a state sponsor in blackmailing shipping interests in SE Asia.
20 posted on 10/15/2001 11:46:11 AM PDT by Soul Citizen
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