DONAHUE'S CHILDREN

Laissez Faire Times (Web) Magazine ^ | Date Not Available | Robert L. Kocher

[roughrider]

Robert Kocher has articulated the necessity of personal morality and responsibility as being essential to the continued existence of a free society.

[roughrider]

Robert Kocher is a great resource. I just found his stuff last night at about midnight. Before I knew it, it was FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.

[roughrider]

What to do when the government is hostile to religion and morality, but both are necessary for the preservation of our Constitution and our liberties? What to do when the government's social programs subsidize the immature and irresponsible in their disasterous personal choices?

[roughrider]

Here is a site full of common sense thinking. Robert Kocher uses premises based upon traditionalist philosophy to reach many libertarian conclusions.

[lowbridge]

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[Grampa7030]

Excellent discussion of a serious topic. I'll give it a bump.

[roughrider]

Kocher's site is tremendous, Grampa. Give it a visit and you'll soon lose track of time.

[MSSC6644]

Many of them think with their sex organs instead of their brains. They wind up in too many beds with too many other people. They lack the values, emotional depth, consistency and discipline to maintain a relationship. Their marriages fall apart. They go from one to another, incapable of genuine relationships. They want too many contradictory things at once without sacrifice. They want it all—complete personal independence, love without discipline or commitment, freedom, careers, marriages, kids, sex on the side with various people, and they don't really care about anything or anybody but themselves.

These words are a perfect description of the TV fare viewed by countless Americans every single day: the soap opera. This is where too many Americans get their values. This is what is shown as normal behavior.

It's time to do something about it. If the conservatives can have a negative influence and impact on the success of Disney, we can do the same for these time-killing, trashy shows that pollute the minds and poison the souls of our people every day.

[roughrider]

Check out Kocher's site and you'll find a series called "Politics in America," that includes a four-part series on how Relationships between men and women have affected modern politics. The social movements feed the media and the media feed and sustain the social (deconstructing) movements.

[RnMomof7]

This has a name..SIN

The wages of sin is death..instead of day care they need the gospel of Jesus Christ!

[roughrider]

Check out this article and Kocher's site posted above. Kocher provides many points of reference where libertarians and traditionalists can find agreement.

[sneakypete]

This guy is right about a lot of things,but is wrong about Donahue. Donahue wasn't being deceitful,he was and is a "true believer" communist. He even went so far as to send his children to the public schools in Chicago. The man is a total fool. How would YOU like to be as pasty-white as Donahue's kids and have to go to a public school system where you were not only a definite minority,but the child of a public figure whose wife beats him?

I never heard what happened with his kids,but I'm thinking something was going on that kept him from running for the Illinois Senate seat he had been talking about running for when he retired from his tv show. He retired and pretty much dropped out of sight. Then again,maybe Marlo won't allow him out of the house?

Anybody know for sure where his kids went to school or how they turned out?

[sneakypete]

What to do when the government is hostile to religion and morality, but both are necessary for the preservation of our Constitution and our liberties?

Religion is NOT in ANY way responsible for our liberties,and in fact is a DANGER to our liberties.

What to do when the government's social programs subsidize the immature and irresponsible in their disasterous personal choices?

I dunno? Maybe wake up and realize the churches are making enormous profits from gooberment contracts to run these social programs? Nah,I didn't think so.

[BufordP]

Great article! Part Two anyone?

[roughrider]

Washington and Adams would definitely disagree about your position on religion and liberty guaranteed by the Constitution, but that will remain a point of disagreement between traditionalists and libertarians.

Basically, we have a government hostile to religion and traditional morality that subsidizes the consequences of asocial behaviors that result from the deconstruction of personal morality and responsibility. We would be better off with a government that is truly NEUTRAL about religion and morality than one that is hostile to those concepts. On that point, I think we can both find agreement. The Constitution severely limited the federal government's role in those areas of social life. Now we can see why.

[MaeWest]

More specifically the problem is misdefined as: 1.) The existence of, or demand for the existence of, unconditionally loving, all-providing permissive parent figures or surrogates;

They want government to fill this role. Once they've denied our Father they are desperate for a surrogate.

[roughrider]

"Victimhood is being redefined as not being able to bind other people into involuntary servitude to pay for personal irresponsibility."

Kocher hits a homerun here, doesn't he? There isn't a libertarian who would not agree with this conclusion, but Kocher's premises are almost all from classical philosophy (in other articles he cautions that religion alone cannot resolve all of these social pathologies), not from libertarian writings, although he applies the Randian "A is A" position in one of his articles about reality.

[ikka]

Religion is NOT in ANY way responsible for our liberties,and in fact is a DANGER to our liberties.

*snort* You are either ignorant or evil to say such a thing. Begone.

[Nea Wood]

Phil Donahue and Oprah Winfrey are big reasons why I am a conservative today. I remember watching their talk shows and so often, I was absolutely horrified by what I saw. And what's more, they usually presented only one side.

[ChemistCat]

Some of us start out with these values and later turn away from them. Perhaps the current crisis will increase the rate at which this happens. Stress and fear catalyze marriage--look at how busy NYC's marriage license offices have been this last month. Lots of people realized they wanted something more committed....