[sneakypete]

What to do when the government is hostile to religion and morality, but both are necessary for the preservation of our Constitution and our liberties?

Religion is NOT in ANY way responsible for our liberties,and in fact is a DANGER to our liberties.

What to do when the government's social programs subsidize the immature and irresponsible in their disasterous personal choices?

I dunno? Maybe wake up and realize the churches are making enormous profits from gooberment contracts to run these social programs? Nah,I didn't think so.

[roughrider]

Washington and Adams would definitely disagree about your position on religion and liberty guaranteed by the Constitution, but that will remain a point of disagreement between traditionalists and libertarians.

Basically, we have a government hostile to religion and traditional morality that subsidizes the consequences of asocial behaviors that result from the deconstruction of personal morality and responsibility. We would be better off with a government that is truly NEUTRAL about religion and morality than one that is hostile to those concepts. On that point, I think we can both find agreement. The Constitution severely limited the federal government's role in those areas of social life. Now we can see why.

[ikka]

Religion is NOT in ANY way responsible for our liberties,and in fact is a DANGER to our liberties.

*snort* You are either ignorant or evil to say such a thing. Begone.