Police: Student spoke of attacks before Sept. 11

THE JOURNAL NEWS ^ | Original publication: Oct. 11, 2001 | By JEFFREY SCOTT SHAPIRO

[Brian Mosely]

BROOKLYN

[tenderstone jr.]

This is just as bad as the propaganda in the Middle East saying that thousands of Jews knew about the attacks and didn't report to work. I think the authorities said the plans were kept so secret that the individual cells didn't even know about each other. If that was the case, I'm sure they wouldn't have risked their plan by telling high school kids.

[Bonaparte]

"...various leads have been investigated regarding Middle Eastern employees who may not have shown up for work at the World Trade Center that morning. "

And after that, the FBI can "investigate" why all those federal agents failed to show up for work at the Murrah building on the day it got blown.

[demnomo]

I think we should air-drop the mother and kids into Afghanistan. Then notify the chicken-$hit father who fled to Pakistan after the interviews to go retreive them. What sort of father would abandon his family in Brooklyn especially when Islamic people are under suspicion and being subjected to 'harassment?' A cowardly traitor and infiltrator that's who!!!

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

I suggested deportations and bulldozing mosques a long time ago (before the Sep. 11 attack) and my thread was pulled. I am absolutely livid EVEN if this is pulled. We are simply going to have to deport Muslims who have not lived in the U.S. for MANY years. Either deport them or more people are going to die from what they will do to us.

[dubyagee]

If that was the case, I'm sure they wouldn't have risked their plan by telling high school kids.

There was a fifth grader in Texas? who also was rumored to have known something was up. Maybe they didn't tell the kids, but the kids overheard others talking. I'm sure for those kids raised in America, things like this would be very confusing to them. (Like maybe they're supposed to hate us but they don't.) Those muslims who are against us are proud of any action taken against us. How do we tell the difference between those against us, and those with us. Racial profiling be damned, a distinction has to be made or we'll never be safe again.

[Dr. Frank fan]

Um, if it's just propaganda, then yes, it's despicable.

However, how do you explain the incident with the high school kid? Do you think it's just made up? The student appears real: the teacher's name is available (though she won't comment). A fellow student is quoted. And, most interestingly: "school officials reported the matter to police within minutes of the Sept. 11 attack."

This says to me that they (the school officials), at least, thought the comments had been real and were in the forefront of their mind as soon as they saw the attack. I mean, if that's not the case then one must believe that they collaborated to spontaneously hatch a propaganda plot the moment they saw the two buildings destroyed: "My, how horrible! Well let's see, how can we stir up trouble based on this attack? I know, let's make up some story about one of our students having bragged last week about how the buildings wouldn't be there. Let's just make it up. We'll use that kid who just got here from Pakistan..."

I mean, come on. It's one thing to be on the guard for propaganda: I approve.

But it's quite another to close your eyes and put your hands over your ears and refuse to see what is right in front of you. Either it was a huge coincidence (i.e. "lucky" guess on the kid's part...), or this kid knew something. Either way, it merits investigation, does it not?

[Pharmboy]

The difference is that the Pakistani stuff about Jews and the WTC are LIES whereas this story is TRUE.

BTW, New Utrecht is the high school my dad went to; the neighborhood is one of Brooklyn's oldest, having been settled by the Dutch for farming in the mid-1600s.

[agrace]

Police sources said that, after the interviews, the boy's father left for Pakistan.

Um, forgive my ignorance but WHY was this man allowed to leave the country???

[TheFilter]

Um, forgive my ignorance but WHY was this man allowed to leave the country???

Maybe he was being proactive, and deported himself!

[mbb bill]

New York has terrists? How about the ACLU and the universities?

[HangFire]

Bump!

[537 Votes]

What they need to do is work for their money instead of just collecting govt paychecks.

The libertarian commentator P.J. O'Rourke once commented that he assumed bureaucrats were lazy until he actually visited Washington DC. He found that bureaucrats were incredibly hard working and energetic. But then he found out why.

You see, government agencies have no metrics for results. They don't measure output, they're not graded by output. Indeed, if they become more efficient, producing more output on fewer input resources, their budgets get cut.

So instead, bureaucrats are measured by input. The more they input, the more they are praised. A bureaucrat is often praised for being energetic, and seldom for being effective in solving a problem. A bureaucrat who solves problems is snuffing out his reason for employment.

Thus, I'm sure the CIA was quite busy, and all the bureaucrats there were working their tails off right up to September 11. But were they investigating terrorists? More likely, they were attending sensitivity training sessions, and then they had a reorganization meeting to go to, and then there was a community outreach . . . they were so busy, they had no time for actual intelligence work. It was all input, input, input.

Nobody cares about output, until buildings collapse.

[uscit]

The ruling elites, including both the open-borders advocates on the right and the multiculturalists on the left have stuck us with millions of immigrants and thousands of immigrant communities where terrorists can hide and even garner support and recruits. They can and did hide not just in Arab or Muslim communities, but in highly "diverse" immigrant communities as well. True, the really bad troublemakers are only a small minority, but there's no way around the fact that these communities are ideal environments for OBL's sleeper cells, and I see precious little evidence that these communities are doing much to root out the bad guys themselves.

[ThePoetsRaven]

Round them up and throw them out. Brooklyn used to be a great place to live with every nationality. Now Bay Ridge a once proud community has been renamed Bay Ruit. Bensonhurst, where the school is, has become Little Asia. Brighton Beach is now known as Little Odessa. Every new contractor is a Pakistani..and I know their workers are ALL illegals. I can't find a newspaper store that isn't owned by a Sheike (sp) and most of the gasoline stations are run by Indians. I also wonder if they pay the taxes they collect from us.

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

In Islamic countries, you have to be Muslim. Israel discourages any Christian activity.

You are very knowledgeable. Unfortunately, most Americans are NOT. They're going to learn the hard way and few thousand deaths later. How sad. I STILL advocate bulldozing the mosques and deporting the vast majority of Middle Eastern (Muslim faith) individuals. Give them time to liquidate their assets and then put them on ships back to origin countries with military guards on board with orders to shoot to kill if there's a rebellion.