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Military Naval Admiral/ Security Paper | 10-10-01 | My Favorite Headache

Posted on 10/10/2001 2:35:17 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache

I do not know whether this has been posted here through another source or is being pulled in threads or not. But through military sources and a private document I saw with my own eyes 2 names have been listed as the leak to the Washington Post. p> Sen. Orrin Hatch Republican from Utah and Senator Diane Feinstein Democrat from California. If this is pulled I will understand. This source is 100% accurate. I am currently writing a piece on our national security at this current time for one of the papers I write for. This is bound to come out soon. So I figured I would post this here first.


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To: XJarhead
the bottom line is that no Congressman is going to get prosecuted anyway. THAT is the problem, the law in NEVER enforced when it comes to these people.
241 posted on 10/11/2001 5:26:04 AM PDT by poweqi
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To: oc-flyfish
She's the biggest thone in Californias side. There are so many pricks in California, I call it Prickafornia. If it had as many pricks sticking out as it has sticking in it, it would look like a porcupine!
242 posted on 10/11/2001 5:32:30 AM PDT by poweqi
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To: Lexington Green
Bush should have these Senators arrested shot,tried & convicted. In that order.
243 posted on 10/11/2001 5:49:49 AM PDT by john316
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To: Maelstrom
Put 'em both on the ground in Afghanistan in Full Combat gear...

On which side?

244 posted on 10/11/2001 5:55:18 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: Ditto
On which side?

As confusing as things will be on ground I don't think it will matter just make sure they are holding 50 year old bolt action rifles and our guys'll get'em.

245 posted on 10/11/2001 6:11:22 AM PDT by john316
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To: DoughtyOne
"It's simply unacceptable for these people to pass information without having to pay the penalty."

There's a LOT that they get away with that should have them breaking rocks.
Unfortunatly there is that provision that gives them immunity.
When that isn't enough, the "old boy" network takes care of the rest.
(Can't set precidents you know...)
246 posted on 10/11/2001 7:00:22 AM PDT by freefly
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To: My Favorite Headache
Maybe the fact is that I cannot believe you! Any answers for this article in the Deseret News that clears Hatch of the slander that you have leaked? A journalist that can't spell and construct grammatically correct sentences, that I can believe, but on Hatch the Pentagon and Bush aides say you are dead wrong. Your ship is sunk!

President Bush doesn't blame Sen. Orrin Hatch as the one in Congress with loose lips that might sink ships, administration sources say.

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Trent Lott, R-Miss., left, Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., and Tom Daschle, D-S.D., gather near the West Wing of the White House.

Associated Press

In fact, an earlier tirade by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld against those who are careless with classified data — which national media said had targeted Hatch, R-Utah — wasn't aimed at him at all, said Rear Adm. Craig R. Quigley, Pentagon spokesman.

That comes as Bush, upset at what he said were weekend leaks of classified data by members of Congress, Tuesday limited classified briefings to only eight members of Congress: leaders of each party in both houses, and leaders of intelligence committees.

That upset many members. Senate Republican leader Trent Lott said after meeting with Bush on Wednesday that a compromise to include more members is likely, but Bush had successfully sent the message "loud and clear" that secret data must remain secret.

Bush said Tuesday he was upset that leaks over the weekend occurred "right before we committed troops." He said that members of Congress must learn that "if you receive a briefing of classified information, you have a responsibility. And some members did not accept that responsibility."

Many national stories about those restrictions brought up again an earlier incident involving Hatch on Sept. 11.

Shortly after terrorist attacks that day, Hatch told TV networks that the government had intercepted phone conversations that made Osama bin Laden a top suspect — including that his associates reported "a couple of targets had been hit."

The next day, on Sept. 12, Secretary of State Colin Powell expressed unease in a CNN interview about Hatch's comments. Dennis Ross, former Middle East envoy during the Clinton administration, did the same and worried aloud that Hatch might have somehow tipped off bin Laden about techniques used to spy on him.

Later the same day, Sept. 12, Rumsfeld groused about carelessness with classified data. U.S. News & World Report, among others, reported that Hatch was the target of those comments.

But that is wrong, Quigley said Wednesday in response to a Deseret News inquiry. He said Rumsfeld merely wanted to warn Defense Department personnel to be careful with information. "It has been an issue that has concerned him for a long time," Quigley said.

Quigley confirmed that Rumsfeld called Hatch to apologize if his comments cause him problems.

Hatch said Wednesday, "He called last week and said, 'Orrin, I hear my name's been used to criticize you. I didn't realize that. I didn't mean you. I know how much you work on these issues.' "

Hatch has said for weeks that he did not release classified information; that he told administration officials who gave him early information that he was calling to see what he could tell the press; and that conversations took place on "non-secure" phone lines on which no secret data is supposed to be discussed.

Meanwhile, Hatch supported Bush limiting classified briefings, but only to a point.

"I don't blame President Bush for keeping top-secret information close to the vest. I will go with the president on that before I will go with Congress," Hatch said.

However, Hatch said leaders in Congress have a legitimate need to top-secret data as they work on legislation affecting the military and spending needs. "I needed it, too, as we worked on anti-terrorism legislation," he said.

Hatch also said he feels sometimes the administration itself leaks information, but blames it on Congress.

"Many times Congress is blamed when it's actually the bureaucracy," he said. "You will go to a briefing and be told not to talk about this, and the next day the Washington Post and New York Times have everything. . . . It didn't come from members of Congress. To blame Congress all the time is wrong, too."

247 posted on 10/11/2001 8:10:21 AM PDT by scottiewottie
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To: Plummz
The WashPost spiked another story after talking to the WH. That's the leak under question. We don't know the subject.

Then why bleat about the appropriateness of the leak?

Huh? For the same reason we put people in prison for attempted murder.

Do you really want to depend on the responsibility of the press the next time some blabber-mouth Senator gives away a military secret?

248 posted on 10/11/2001 8:25:42 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: freefly
Good comments. The GOB networks... a real problem.
249 posted on 10/11/2001 9:53:31 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: oc-flyfish
Her and Lee
250 posted on 10/11/2001 10:03:23 AM PDT by P8riot
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To: aculeus
Do you really want to depend on the responsibility of the press the next time some blabber-mouth Senator gives away a military secret?

The point is, you don't know that it's a military secret, that's just what you're assuming from what's been told. For all we know, it could have been information helpful to citizens should there be another attack. (Something all the "experts" on teevee have been discouraging, you might have noticed.)

On another note, I myself received a "leak" from a congressman earlier today on a briefing, but it wasn't regarding military secrets, just regarding how dense Maxine Waters is.

251 posted on 10/11/2001 12:14:29 PM PDT by Plummz
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To: Plummz
The point is, you don't know that it's a military secret, that's just what you're assuming from what's been told.

Bob Woodward of WashPost on LKL Monday or Tuesday night, before this story reached fever pitch on FR or elsewhere, said that he had received a leak and before going to press decided to ask the WH for guidance since it appeared to him that it might jeapordize American lives. The WH asked him not to print it and they did not.

Sorry to insist: it concerned future military operations.

252 posted on 10/11/2001 3:18:15 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: Rudder
Still no confirming info as to what and when was leaked by whom? Is this all conjecture that Hatch was involved? The Bush admin said he wasn't. Who to believe?
253 posted on 10/11/2001 7:54:20 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: My Favorite Headache
A couple of days now since your post.......

Who's the leaker?........

254 posted on 10/12/2001 4:59:36 PM PDT by deport
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