COUNCILMEMBER DONA SPRING sits at a City Council meeting Tuesday. Her emergency agenda item condemning U.S. airstrikes failed to be heard.
From the following: Daily Cal
Posted on 10/10/2001 1:16:39 PM PDT by IowaHawk
Edited on 04/23/2004 12:03:37 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
The Daily Californian reports that the Berkeley City Council is likely to approve a resolution denouncing America for defending itself against terrorism. Councilwoman Dona Spring uttered what may be the most idiotic comment we've heard in the past month: "Berkeley has always been an island of sanity in terms of the war madness that has prevailed in this country. The U.S. is now a terrorist. According to the Taliban these are terrorist attacks."
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The Oakland Tribune, meanwhile, reports on an anti-Ameircan rally at UC Berkeley, which was interrupted by a smaller contingent of Berkeley patriots. The closing exchange is priceless:
Another [student], favoring peace [sic], said in the heat of argument, "Look, it's not like they attacked the U.S."
"They did," a pro-USA student replied.
"Uh, oh yeah, they did," the other said, flashing an embarrassed grin.
Traitors in Berkeley. The "useless idiots" there are enemies of the United States.
It's so sweet when they let them out on field trips.
COUNCILMEMBER DONA SPRING sits at a City Council meeting Tuesday. Her emergency agenda item condemning U.S. airstrikes failed to be heard.
From the following: Daily Cal
All those bozos over in Berkeley REALLY care about is what is going on at their next ZAP (zinfandel wine club) meeting. I'm sorry... but the most self-absorbed, egotistical, arrogant, YAHOOs I've ever met have been from Berkley. One EVEN complained about all the conservatives in CA politics. You can imagine what they thought of me.. an overweight, white, Christian living in south Alabama! lol
My deepest apologies and sorrow for any freeper I may have offended. My bitterness is showing.
But seriously, such departures from common sense and abandonments of the ordinary public meanings of words are self-indicting. If there's any silver lining around Black Tuesday's dark clouds, it's that crap like this will command a far lesser audience than it did before. We've seen the results of moral equivalence and cultural relativism.
Also see the following essay:
Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
Visit the Palace Of Reason: http://palaceofreason.com
People like this really need to experience life under the Taliban.
Peace rally at UC Berkeley spurs emotional debate
By William Brand STAFF WRITER
BERKELEY -- A peace rally held Monday at the University of California, Berkeley, to protest United States and British bombing in Afghanistan was interrupted by flag-waving students chanting "USA! USA!"
The day of protest continued Monday evening with a peace march through downtown Berkeley.
Those favoring peace -- about 400 -- far outnumbered approximately 50 demonstrators backing U.S. policy at the noon rally on Sproul Plaza.
But the complex issue apparently has not been sorted out by most students and the two groups of protesters were ringed by another large group of students who listened to both sides' arguments with interest.
"I think both sides are looking at this as if everything was black and white," said Melissa Browning, a UC Berkeley junior.
"It's not that easy for me. Personally, I lean toward being anti-war. I think there are other ways to settle things than bombing," Browning said. But she added she couldn't agree with everything being said by the peace advocates.
Although the rally officially ended at 1 p.m. and loudspeakers were shut off, arguments raged for hours in a fashion not seen since the early days of Vietnam War protests in the mid-1960s. Like today, it was a time when many Americans had not made up their minds about America's intervention.
Berkeley eventually became overwhelmingly anti-war.
The situation today is different for some and the same for others. For labor organizer Michael Eisensichen of Berkeley, nothing has changed. "This debate will not be won on Sproul Plaza. It will be won when you go back home and engage in debate with your friends and neighbors," he told students. It was advice often given protesters in the 1960s.
Ruth Sears, one of two dozen Mills College students from Oakland who joined the protest, asked how one identifies a terrorist. "This is a small group of people," she said. "How can we find and bomb them?"
But Mike Vallarelli, a UC Berkeley senior, disagreed while helping hold a large American flag. "What do we do; let them hit us and we just stand there? You've got Osama bin Laden saying, 'You think the World Trade Center bombing was bad, there's going to be more.' We have every right to go after him and bomb them," he said.
The day's arguments had its non sequiturs. For instance, one student said, "Afghanistan is a country without television. How can we communicate?"
Another, favoring peace, said in the heat of argument, "Look, it's not like they attacked the U.S."
"They did," a pro-USA student replied.
"Uh, oh yeah, they did," the other said, flashing an embarrassed grin.
ugly and brilliant, or...
beautiful and stupid, or...
beautiful and brilliant, but you can't be
UGLY AND STUPID, unless you're
Dona Spring
AB
So now the Taliban is a beacon of truth??
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