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To: RobbyS; RnMomof7; Jerry_M
But a countless number of mediators between Jesus and us, including my mother and father, or so I believe.

Well, your personal beliefs are irrelavent! The verse which I quote clearly contradicts what you personally believe: there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. My Lord Jesus is God and the only mediator.

From Websters: Mediator - One who serves to reconcile.
For your beliefs to be correct, it must be assumed that your parents for instance have the power to present you to Christ for salvation. They do not and scripture is against you:
No man can come to Me unless the Father who hath sent Me draw him; and I will raise him up at the Last Day.
So, what is it that you think your parents can do for you for either your salvation or sanctification?
53 posted on 10/15/2001 5:58:50 AM PDT by CCWoody
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To: CCWoody
The verse which I quote clearly contradicts what you personally believe: there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. My Lord Jesus is God and the only mediator.

Why don't you try reading the whole chapter, instead of constructing a false theology on one verse ripped out of context?

The whole of 2 Tm is a plea for, get this, intercessory prayer by all Christians on behalf of the whole world! Wait, uh, why do Christians need to pray for anyone -- especially other Christians -- if Jesus is the "only mediator"?

Better question: why does Paul himself ask for intercessory prayer on his behalf in a number of places in the Scripture?

A clue is that the word translated "one" is not the Greek monos, meaning "one and only one," but heis, meaning "one, unique, or primary". In other words, in claiming that nobody mediates except Jesus, you are making an assertion that is not supported by the actual Greek text, and which contradicts both the context of that verse and many other Scripture passages.

That having been said, it is true that Jesus is our only mediator with the Father. The task of Christians is to mediate or intercede for others with Jesus. That is precisely what Christians do for one another when they pray for each other, and it is precisely what the saints in heaven, including Mary, do for the saints on earth.

Our position is Scriptural. Yours is not.

59 posted on 10/15/2001 8:35:01 AM PDT by Campion
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To: CCWoody
Pray for us.
103 posted on 10/15/2001 12:36:49 PM PDT by RobbyS
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