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OUR LADY AND ISLAM: HEAVEN’S PEACE PLAN
http://www.ewtn.com/library/MARY/OLISLAM.HTM ^ | September - October 2001 | Fr Ladis J. Cizik, Blue Army National Executive Director

Posted on 10/09/2001 8:21:36 PM PDT by Diago

OUR LADY AND ISLAM: HEAVEN’S PEACE PLAN
Fr Ladis J. Cizik, Blue Army National Executive Director

Islam Islam is an Arabic word that can be defined as "to make peace." Islam is the religion founded by Mohammed, which considers the Koran as its holy book. In addition, Islam accepts the New Testament of the Christians and the Old Testament of the Jews as Divinely inspired works. Followers of Islam are known as Muslims (also: Moors, Turks, and Moslems) and, just as Jews and Christians, believe in only one God. Yet, over the centuries, Muslims have engaged in tremendous wars with Christians and Jews. It would seem that there is little hope for peace. However, Heaven's Peace Plan, involving Our Lady, is evidenced at Fatima, Portugal as well as other places around the world.

Fatima

The Moors once occupied Portugal. The village of Fatima was given the Islamic name of the well-loved Princess of the nearby Castle of Ourem. She died at an early age after marrying the Count of Ourem and converting to Catholicism. Baptized with the Christian name of Oureana, she was named at birth "Fatima," like many other Moslem girls, in honor of the daughter of Mohammed. Of his daughter, Fatima, the founder of Islam, Mohammed, said: "She has the highest place in heaven after the Virgin Mary."

It is a fact that Moslems from various nations, especially from the Middle East, make so many pilgrimages to Our Lady of Fatima's Shrine in Portugal that Portuguese officials have expressed concern. The combination of an Islamic name and Islamic devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary is a great attraction to Moslems. God is writing straight with crooked lines, as we will see. Fatima is a part of Heaven's Peace Plan. It is hope for the world.

The Koran

In the Koran, the holy name of the Blessed Virgin Mary is mentioned no less than thirty times. No other woman's name is even mentioned, not even that of Mohammed's daughter, Fatima. Among men, only Abraham, Moses, and Noah are mentioned more times than Our Lady. In the Koran, Our Blessed Mother is described as "Virgin, ever Virgin." The Islamic belief in the virginity of Mary puts to shame the heretical beliefs of those who call themselves Christian, while denying the perpetual virginity of Mary. Make no mistake about it, there is a very special relationship between the Blessed Virgin Mary and the Moslems!

The Holy Land

The Holy Land has been a real battleground between the Islamic peoples and Christianity over the centuries. Evidence of this are the numerous churches and basilicas that have been built by the Church, destroyed by, the Moslems, rebuilt by Catholic Crusaders, leveled again by the followers of Islam, and so on over the course of history. However, there is one remarkable exception: the Basilica of Saint Anne in Jerusalem.

The Crusaders built this church and named it in honor of the mother of the Blessed Virgin Mary. In the Crypt of St. Anne's Basilica, a statue of the Infant Mary is venerated on what is believed to be the exact spot where Our Lady was born. Their great reverence for Our Lady precluded the Moslems from destroying her birthplace. The foundation for Heaven's Peace Plan at Fatima, Portugal, can be found in the Land of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

Spain

As the Moslems swept through Spain in the 8th century, a great religious treasure was buried for safe-keeping in the earth, high in the Estremadura Mountains. It was a much venerated statue of Our Lady holding the Divine Child Jesus that was a gift of Pope Gregory the Great to Bishop Leander of Seville. After the overthrow of Moorish occupation, the image was uncovered in the year 1326, subsequent to a vision of Our Lady to a humble shepherd by the name of Gil. Our Lady's very special statue was enshrined in a nearby Franciscan Monastery next to the "Wolf River."

The Moslems, during their Spanish occupation, had actually named the river. The Islamic term for Wolf River is "Guadalupe" (Guada = River; Lupe = Wolf). Hence, the famous Catholic image in Spain has been known, since the 14th century, by the Islamic name of "Our Lady of Guadalupe."

Mexico

In the fullness of time, we can be sure that Almighty God knew that the Islamic religion would pose a serious threat to Christianity. God also knew that the Spanish missionaries would face grave resistance in the "new world" from the mighty Aztec Indians. The Aztecs worshipped an evil stone "serpent god" that demanded human sacrifice. It was extremely difficult to win souls for Christ from these bloodthirsty savages. However, with God all things are possible. Our Lady appeared to a humble Aztec Indian convert by the name of Juan Diego in 1531. When asked her name by Juan Diego, at the request of the local bishop, Our Lady's response, in the Aztec language, included the words "te coatlaxopeuh" (pronounced: "te quatlasupe") and meant "one who crushes the head of the stone serpent."

To Juan Diego and his fellow Aztecs, this revelation had great meaning, coupled with the miraculous image of Our Lady standing on top of a "crescent," the symbol of this evil serpent god. A tidal wave of conversions to Catholicism ensued. However, Bishop Zumarraga, who was from Spain, made what was no doubt a "heavenly mistake" that one day may lead to the mass conversion of Moslems. To the Bishop's Spanish ears, Our Lady's Aztec name of "Te Quatlasupe" sounded just like the name of the revered Madonna from Spain with the Islamic name, "Guadalupe." Hence, the bishop named the Mexican Madonna "Our Lady of Guadalupe." It is interesting that the "crescent" is also the symbol for Islam and that America's Shrine to Our Lady has an Islamic name.

Battle of Lepanto

On October 7, 1571, a great victory over the mighty Turkish fleet was won by Catholic naval forces primarily from Spain, Venice, and Genoa under the command of Don Juan of Austria. It was the last battle at sea between "oared" ships, which featured the most powerful navy in the world, a Moslem force with between 12,000 to 15,000 Christian slaves as rowers. The patchwork team of Catholic ships was powered by the Holy Rosary of the Blessed Virgin Mary. Knowing that the Christian forces were at a distinct material disadvantage, the holy pontiff, St. Pope Pius V called for all of Europe to pray the Rosary for victory.

We know today that the victory was decisive, prevented the Islamic invasion of Europe, and evidenced the Hand of God working through Our Lady. At the hour of victory, St. Pope Pius V, who was hundreds of miles away at the Vatican, is said to have gotten up from a meeting, went over to a window, and exclaimed with supernatural radiance: "The Christian fleet is victorious!" and shed tears of thanksgiving to God.

What you may not know is that one of three admirals commanding the Catholic forces at Lepanto was Andrea Doria. He carried a small copy of Mexico's Our Lady of Guadalupe into battle. This image is now enshrined in the Church of San Stefano in Aveto, Italy. Not many know that at the Monastery of Our Lady of Guadalupe in Spain, one can view a huge warship lantern that was captured from the Moslems in the Battle of Lepanto. In Rome, look up to the ceiling of S. Maria in Aracoeli and behold decorations in gold taken from the Turkish galleys. In the Doges' Palace in Venice, Italy, one can witness a giant Islamic flag that is now a trophy from a vanquished Turkish ship from the Victory. At Saint Mary Major Basilica in Rome, close to the tomb of the great St. Pope Pius V, one was once able to view yet another Islamic flag from the Battle, until 1965, when it was returned to Istanbul in an intended friendly token of concord.

The Rosary

At Lepanto, the Victory over the Moslems was won by the faithful praying the Rosary. Even though they had superior numbers, the Turks really were overmatched. Blessed Padre Pio, the Spiritual Father of the Blue Army, said: "The Rosary is the weapon," and how right he was!

The Battle of Lepanto was at first celebrated liturgically as "Our Lady of Victory." Later, the feast of October 7th was renamed "Our Lady of the Rosary" and extended throughout the Universal Church by Pope Clement XI in 1716 (who canonized Pope Pius V in 1712).

And with that we are back to Fatima, Portugal where Our Lady, when asked her name, said: "I am the Lady of the Rosary." At Fatima, Our Lady taught us to pray the Rosary every day. Heaven presented its peace plan at Fatima and truly gave us hope for the world. Conversions were promised at Fatima: the conversion of sinners; the conversion of Russia; and what also appears to be the conversion of Islam. Our Lady of the Rosary, pray for us!

Taken from:
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© 2001 The Blue Army of Our Lady of Fatima, U.S.A., Inc.
September - October 2001, page 6
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To: Diago
This will be the false religion that that Satan uses, this worship of Mary will be the tie that "binds"
61 posted on 10/15/2001 8:58:05 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Campion; Jerry_M
Why don't you try reading the whole chapter, instead of constructing a false theology on one verse ripped out of context?

I have and I will again. However, you have not addressed the other scriptures which support my correct Biblical position. So, I am not denying prayer of intercession on behalf of the Elect, but my question and my position still stands. God, chooses His own, not man. What can any person do to effect, that is cause the salvation of another?

That having been said, it is true that Jesus is our only mediator with the Father. The task of Christians is to mediate or intercede for others with Jesus. That is precisely what Christians do for one another when they pray for each other, and it is precisely what the saints in heaven, including Mary, do for the saints on earth.

Should they seek the dead on behalf of the Living. I'd rather have Jesus, my Lord, pray for me:

I pray for them; I pray not for the world, but for them whom Thou hast given Me, for they are Thine. And all Mine are Thine, and Thine are Mine, and I am glorified in them.

62 posted on 10/15/2001 9:00:15 AM PDT by CCWoody
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To: TrueBeliever9
In the Koran, the holy name of the Blessed Virgin Mary is mentioned no less than thirty times. No other woman's name is even mentioned, not even that of Mohammed's daughter, Fatima. Among men, only Abraham, Moses, and Noah are mentioned more times than Our Lady. In the Koran, Our Blessed Mother is described as "Virgin, ever Virgin." The Islamic belief in the virginity of Mary puts to shame the heretical beliefs of those who call themselves Christian, while denying the perpetual virginity of Mary. Make no mistake about it, there is a very special relationship between the Blessed Virgin Mary and the Moslems!

Considering that a Marian Catholic believes in a whole basket of doctrines that are not even hinted at in the Bible, it doesn't surprise me that they would be pleased to hear what the Koran says about Mary. The bible has so little place in the formation of Marian doctrine there is no surprise that a Marian would mention the Koran and the Bible in the same context as if they are equal. If anyone says anything nice about the "Queen of Heaven" he is elevated in the hearts of a Marian no matter what other doctrines he holds.

63 posted on 10/15/2001 9:07:06 AM PDT by biblewonk
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To: CT
Mary is revered as Jesus's mother, she is honored, but she is not worshiped.

You could have fooled me...

And it came to pass, as He spoke these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice and said unto Him, "Blessed is the womb that bore Thee and the breasts which Thou hast sucked." But He said, "Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the Word of God and keep it."

64 posted on 10/15/2001 9:07:57 AM PDT by CCWoody
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To: CCWoody
Yes, exactly my point!
65 posted on 10/15/2001 9:12:52 AM PDT by CT
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To: nmh; CCWoody
The Islamic belief in the virginity of Mary puts to shame the heretical beliefs of those who call themselves Christian, while denying the perpetual virginity of Mary. Make no mistake about it, there is a very special relationship between the Blessed Virgin Mary and the Moslems!"

Pathetic huh? How can they not see that the fact that a false religion shares a major tenet of faith with them is nothing to celebrate?

66 posted on 10/15/2001 9:15:34 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: NAMMARINE
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67 posted on 10/15/2001 9:15:53 AM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: nmh
Good grief! So Catholics are all excited about the imaginary ramblings of Mohammed's daughter - Fatima? Geesh. Seem like Catholics have more in common with Muslims that Christians. Especially when you compare how intolerant Catholics were to Christians during the Crusades and the Inquisition.

Possibly correct. The Catechism of the Catholic Church states the following:

841 The Churches relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; those profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day,"

One of the definitions in Webster's dictionary for Profess is: "to declare in words or appearances only : PRETEND, CLAIM"

I am neither Catholic nor Protestant, but I have done much Bible study, and I am a Christian. We need to pray for the Muslims, yes. We need to witness to them, but I cannot understand how they rate "in the first place".

68 posted on 10/15/2001 9:22:14 AM PDT by The Bard
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To: RobbyS; nmh; CCWoody
#3, indeed the Bible does say alot about the queen of heaven and none of it is good.

Jer.7;18
[18] The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger. Jer.44:17-25

[17] But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil.
[18] But since we left off to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, we have wanted all things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine.
[19] And when we burned incense to the queen of heaven, and poured out drink offerings unto her, did we make her cakes to worship her, and pour out drink offerings unto her, without our men?
[25] Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, saying; Ye and your wives have both spoken with your mouths, and fulfilled with your hand, saying, We will surely perform our vows that we have vowed, to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her: ye will surely accomplish your vows, and surely perform your vows.
Read on for the full extent of the Judeo-Christian God and His anger at this idoltry. Marianoloy, worshipping Mary, praying to ber ... all for naught. God views it as a distraction and another idol. It pisses Him off. Yet, Catholics will continue to disobey Him. What the Bible says doesn't matter to them. It is that of another Gospel that they follow and certainly NOT Christian.
49 posted on 10/14/01 8:59 PM Pacific by nmh [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies | Report Abuse ] *************************************************************

Robby you wrote:

What gives you the right to say what is Chistian, ypur whose teachingsr are contrary to the opinion of the great majority of Christians throughout the centuries. Claims that you and you alone rightly read the Scriptures is merely that, a claim. To put it simply: Fellow, that's YOUR opinion! I see it differently.

Robby this is America and you are free to see it however you choose..but my concern is always not how I see things..but how God sees them.He is God,it is His standard we must meet..He does not have to meet ours

Go back and re read the scripture that nmh has posted..That is the word of God Robby. You may substitute anything you want,but that doeant mean it is God's will just because it is yours.

Jer.7;18
[18] The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.

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69 posted on 10/15/2001 9:27:29 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Let's see. Doesn't Jesus speak of humility somewhere in the Bible too?
70 posted on 10/15/2001 9:41:33 AM PDT by CT
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To: CT
Goodness! Your anti-Catholic bigotry and your hostile tone are perplexing. What makes you so angry? By the way, all of your biblical references to the "queen of heaven" are from the Old Testament; Mary wasn't even born yet.

Malachi 3:6For I [am] the LORD, I change not;

CT ,God is the same yesterday today and tomorrow.He doesnt change. Dont you still believe the Old Testament Ten Commandments are valid? "I am the Lord thy God,I will have no other gods before me" God is a jealous God..He demands what is rightly His,all our honor,all our praise,our very lives.He does not want to share that.

If you choose to have faith in mary..that is between you and God.but you can not say that He has changed to allow what He once said He hated.

71 posted on 10/15/2001 9:45:13 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Sorry, but what "nmh" has posted is not merely Scripture but his opinion also.
72 posted on 10/15/2001 9:48:49 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: RnMomof7
And everything that Y'shua said in the New Testament is also in the Old Testament! Keep up the good work RnMomof7! TRUTH! (even though in these last days men are not lovers of TRUTH)
73 posted on 10/15/2001 9:50:49 AM PDT by TrueBeliever9
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To: CCWoody; nmh; George W. Bush; Jerry_M
Roman Catholic doctrine 841 The Churches relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; those profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day,"

I found this quote posted above of interest,as I had a discussion on another thread with a Catholic that implied that Islam and Hindi were just "other paths" to God..Jesus was just "one way"

I didnt know that was "offical Church doctrine "now.

Geeeee at one time if you were a Luthern you were damned..now it seems even heathan religions are acceptible "paths"

This is indeed the beginning of the one world religion spoken of in Revelation and the 7 hills...amazing!

74 posted on 10/15/2001 9:54:46 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
I've never doubted that my faith is between me and God. That fact seems to be lost to some here.
75 posted on 10/15/2001 10:19:44 AM PDT by CT
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To: CCWoody
Matthew 22:29-30...."...Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. For in the resurrection thay neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are AS THE ANGELS OF GOD IN HEAVEN.".....There is NO mention in the Bible, from cover to cover, of VIRGINS in heaven as a reward for men....As for your contention that you may accuse me of putting words in God's mouth, I am AMAZED that people will make life and death (eternal )decisions without reading, without KNOWING what Christ said.
76 posted on 10/15/2001 10:31:50 AM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: The Bard; nmh; RnMomof7; Jerry_M; Mark17
841 The Churches relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; those profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day,"

Christ's Church has no relationship with those who deny that He is God. Since I can assume from this statement that the Creator is also the Judge, and since the Bible affirms that Jesus Christ is Creator and Judge, I can conclude that this is just more twisting of scriptures.

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature. For by Him were all things created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones or dominions or principalities or powers: all things were created by Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and by Him all things consist.

For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son, that all men should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He that honoreth not the Son honoreth not the Father who hath sent Him.


77 posted on 10/15/2001 11:11:01 AM PDT by CCWoody
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To: Impeach the Boy; CCWoody
But, Matthew 22:29,30 does not state that angels and glorified humans are identical, something that I think you referred to previously. Angels will never know what it is to be redeemed, since no plan of salvation was ever provided for those who fell away.

Angels and humans are different, always have been, and always will be. What Jesus was talking about in Matthew 22 is the fact that redeemed, glorified humans will not have a sexual identity (neither male nor female), not that they become the same as angels.

78 posted on 10/15/2001 11:17:29 AM PDT by Jerry_M
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To: CT
I've never doubted that my faith is between me and God. That fact seems to be lost to some here.

CT,everyones "faith" is between him and his god.That does not make it correct or saving faith.

I have "faith" that when I switch in the wall switch my room will be bathed in light..but that "faith" will not save me..

There has to be an object to our faith..

The Muslims have a faith,as does my Hindi doctor, that has his Elephant god on his book case.The faith he has between him and his god will not save him.

The question we need to ask ourselves is what do we have faith in?

79 posted on 10/15/2001 11:22:09 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
I didnt know that was "offical Church doctrine "now.

It's not, as Ratzinger has recently pointed out. Be careful of "liberal" Catholics.

80 posted on 10/15/2001 11:22:29 AM PDT by RobbyS
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