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Forget Islam: bin Laden is no more than a spoilt rich kid (MUST READ!)
The Daily Telegraph ^ | October 9, 2001 | Robert Harris

Posted on 10/08/2001 11:56:33 PM PDT by MadIvan

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To: MadIvan
The problem with Bin Laden, that his followers haven't figured out yet, is that he is too much a coward to even attempt to make the sacrifice he is telling his followers to do. He will never fall on his sword for Islam.
61 posted on 10/09/2001 5:46:55 AM PDT by OrioleFan
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To: MadIvan
"... this is the message-lift up your hearts, all will come right. Out of depths of sorrow and sacrifice will be born again the glory of mankind." - Winston Churchill, 1941

I LOVE that quote!

Just yesterday I heard (either on radio, TV, or maybe I read it - so many info sources these days!) that OBL was ticked off at the U.S. because he was rejected by some American woman. I do hope he gets to see some of the creative graphics with his image here on FR before his none-too-soon demise....

Cheers, CC :)

62 posted on 10/09/2001 6:08:01 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: CheneyChick
Just yesterday I heard (either on radio, TV, or maybe I read it - so many info sources these days!) that OBL was ticked off at the U.S. because he was rejected by some American woman

Gods, that proves what a raving nutter he is. If I had a quid for every time I'd had trouble with an American woman, I'd have a Dom Perignon fountain out in the courtyard. ;)

Good thing you American ladies are worth the trouble. ;)

Regards, Ivan
63 posted on 10/09/2001 6:14:22 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: BigWaveBetty
That's got to be the looongest pink caddie I ever saw. The guy kneeling in front with the sweater tied so chicly(sp) around his neck cracks me up.I think I had some pants just like them!!! haha!
64 posted on 10/09/2001 6:14:46 AM PDT by poweqi
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To: MadIvan
"we know what you are".

Yes, we do--and I would have seen Mr. Bush say precisely that. But our adversary is not a lone fanatic. He has a network of supporters and similarly suicidal followers. Our adversary is a pirate. And as two editorial-page articles in the Wall Street Journal discuss, piracy is only controlled politically.

The problem is always political first, and will be political last. To quote Jefferson approximately from memory, "I study politics so my son can study war, and his son can study mathematics and his son can study art."

So while we are confident in our armed forces we are less confident in our political "forces." And here the treason of x42 might tend to show; if it be believed that Jefferson was as much like x42 as x42 pretended, and Jefferson's portrait is on our currency . . . well, it just doesn't help the politics of the situation, does it?

The best hope of resolution of the mess would seem to lie with the restoration of the pre-1976 monarchy. Which we should encourage on the one hand, and distance ourselve from on the other, so as not to position the king as a foreign puppet. That regime did not have a record of harboring globally ambitious pirates, at least . . .

65 posted on 10/09/2001 6:18:05 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: brat
And instead of spending all that money feeding the Muslims he cares so much about, he uses every red cent to cause bloodshed!

I'm not quite sure he is as virtuous as you suggest--he even uses "charitable" front groups to solicit donations for his evil designs.

66 posted on 10/09/2001 6:21:53 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: RLK
Many become liberal Democrats etc. trying to correct the world from the dissatisfaction that has befallen them.

The "dissatisfaction that has befallen them" derives, IMHO, from the pressure of freedom. The worst feature of accepting freedom is accepting responsibility for the results--or lack thereof--of your own decisions. American "liberalism" is at root a critic's mentality, in a nation best defined by T. Roosevelt's

"It is not the critic who counts . . ."

67 posted on 10/09/2001 6:29:02 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: mississippi red-neck
Absolutely! Notice our PC media NEVER treated the war in Sudan as a muslim vs Christian religious war....it was a "civil war".

Instead of helping Christians, we have sent troops to aid the muslims in at least three nations!!!

68 posted on 10/09/2001 6:35:53 AM PDT by texson66
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To: MadIvan
Thanks for the ping to a very interesting article. I must get my hands on the Conrad book.
69 posted on 10/09/2001 6:55:31 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
That picture is incredible,,actually they aren't a bad looking lot. Note all the girls have jeans on, not a headpiece among them. But they look attractive, energetic and kinda cute and modern.
70 posted on 10/09/2001 7:38:56 AM PDT by cajungirl
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To: MadIvan
It's interesting how many psychopaths were spoiled rich kids; Fidel Castro, Marcos the guerrilla leader in Chiapas, Mexico, the leaders of the FARC Marxist guerillas in Colombia.
71 posted on 10/09/2001 7:44:08 AM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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To: Prodigal Daughter
It's interesting how many psychopaths were spoiled rich kids; Fidel Castro, Marcos the guerrilla leader in Chiapas, Mexico, the leaders of the FARC Marxist guerillas in Colombia.

Lenin was also the son of a minor nobleman. Hitler came from a reasonably middle class background. Stalin was one of the few to come from a background that could be called anywhere near desperate.

Regards, Ivan
72 posted on 10/09/2001 7:52:09 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: cajungirl
Hard to figure how Osama concluded that the oppression of women, murder of children and innocent bystanders and living a life of pure, unadulterated hatred is preferable to the life he once knew.
73 posted on 10/09/2001 7:58:29 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: MadIvan
Thanks for all the good reads you bring us, Ivan!
74 posted on 10/09/2001 8:06:20 AM PDT by Billie
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To: mountaineer
Hard to figure how Osama concluded that the oppression of women, murder of children and innocent bystanders and living a life of pure, unadulterated hatred is preferable to the life he once knew.
I'm just waiting for some dingbat social services type genius (perhaps the sociology professor at Holy Cross in Worcester?) to determine that he's a victim of some form of mental illness and suggest that instead of annihilating him, we should capture him and ensure he is evaluated and prescribed SSRIs.
75 posted on 10/09/2001 8:27:06 AM PDT by LiveFreeOrDieTryin
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To: Registered
At last, a picture of bin Laden chin. Please have fun making pictures of what he'd look like with various nose jobs, cheek implants, etc.
76 posted on 10/09/2001 8:34:51 AM PDT by japaneseghost
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To: LiveFreeOrDieTryin
Like BigWaveBetty suggested on another thread, it's probably a result of his birth order. It's tough being the 22nd or 38th or whatever child he was of his prolific father. Poor Ossie kind of got lost in the shuffle, don't you know, and slaughtering innocent people was the only way he could express himself and find his true identity. Quick, call a social worker!
77 posted on 10/09/2001 8:40:04 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
Oh Lord, if only Sammy's momma had given him more attention. Allowed him to torture innocent restaurant goers like our American kids do, interfered in his teacher's attempts to make him toe the line. If only his daddy had had more quality time with him. If only he had gone to a state run day care and had nice people tell him how he couldn't play with guns or draw violent pics. If only he had a gender neutral environment and exposure to early sex. If only his playmates looked like young hookers by age nine. If only he got to listen to rappers. If only he had been raised, wait, I am going off on a tangent. This creep chose to be what he is and there is no excuse. It is however interesting to wonder why he came out of his background such a whack job.
78 posted on 10/09/2001 8:56:00 AM PDT by cajungirl
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
You are right! He does use the "Extortion Scam" that he learned from Jesse Jackson!
79 posted on 10/11/2001 10:45:41 PM PDT by brat
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