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The Continuing Degeneration of FreeRepublic: Sealed lips sink website.
LewRockwell.com ^ | October 9, 2001 | Malcolm Garris

Posted on 10/08/2001 10:25:47 PM PDT by ouroboros

The Continuing Degeneration of FreeRepublic

by Malcolm Garris

Anyone who has visited this once great conservative forum will by now have noticed a crackdown on certain opinions regarding this quagmire into which America’s military has so enthusiastically launched itself. Quite aside from the warmongering comments that now saturate the forum, opinion pieces that are strongly critical of our president, foreign policy, or sacred cows such as Ann Coulter tend to get yanked from their server pretty quickly. Admittedly, not all antiwar pieces that are posted get pulled, but they are predictably panned and trolled by these self-righteous armchair generals. Oh, there are still a few voices of reason and noninterventionism on the forum, but they number maybe a couple of dozen, at most, while the warmongering majority rank in the several thousand. Disheartening, to say the least.

Nor has the forum always been this uncritical of American foreign policy. During the Kosovo war and after, voices critical of NATO and U.S. involvement seemed to be in the majority. It was enough to begin to give one hope that real change for the better might be possible. And it illustrated excellently how the antiwar movement had shifted to the right. Of course, since Bush Jr. became president, none of the damage done to the Balkans has been undone, and the US is still involved militarily there even today. In this matter, Freepers now prefer to look the other way, or to think that it has no relevance to current events. And besides, it’s all Bill Clinton’s fault anyway.

Posting images of nuclear explosions are a particularly popular form of patriotic expression these days, often accompanied by comments such as "Lets Roll!" or "If only we had the will to use it!" Absolutely charming. They must be proud to be able to express such genocidal feelings so openly. If it took an attack on America's home soil to spark this kind of patriotism, one can only imagine the amount of "patriotism" abroad that decades of US military interventionism have succeeded in cultivating around the globe. I strongly suspect that in the case of FR’s nuke-‘em-all crowd, they have at least secretly harbored the desire to drop the big-one on the "ragheads" years before September 11th, and now feeling vindicated, they are able to come out of the closet.

In addition to the absolutely rabid warmongering, there is the new American-syle Hitler Youth/Gestapo mindset. For example, an article written by Justin Raimondo will often bring out the junior G-men on the forum with remarks like: "Who is this Justin Raimondo/Antiwar.com (or Lew Rockwell for that matter)? Has the FBI/CIA/IRS looked into them?" Geez Louise! No doubt these folks on the forum were never good friends of the Constitution and Bill of Rights to begin with, and were staunch supporters of the war-on-drugs. But now, with a new war (and the old one isn’t even over yet) to sink their fangs into and a potential police state just around the corner, they too, are able to come out of the closet.

To the credit of many Freepers, a good number of them (not necessarily a majority) are still questioning some proposals such as national id cards. However, I suspect that this too will get worse, as more and more decide that trading their liberties for security is worth it.

But now a brand new facet in the quest for self-censorship has appeared. One that would be laughable if it weren’t so sad: Under their new "Loose Lips Sink Ships" philosophy FR is now yanking breaking news stories regarding attacks launched on the Taliban, even though anyone can turn on the TV or go to one of the major news sites and get the information for themselves.

Oh, eventually FreeRepublic gets around to keeping the story up on their server. But darn, FR used to be such a great source for breaking news!

October 9, 2001

Malcolm Garris (send him mail) is in charge of web graphics for Antiwar.com and LewRockwell.com.

Copyright © 2001 LewRockwell.com


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To: Freedom Wins
I don't know. I suppose the moderators had a huddle and thought better of it.
21 posted on 10/08/2001 11:30:46 PM PDT by ouroboros
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To: doug from upland
The "macho" picture that Raimondo runs with his rantings should serve as fair warning to anyone hapless enough to visit antiwar.com(mie).....
22 posted on 10/08/2001 11:31:30 PM PDT by tracer
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To: Darheel
you are pathetic and need a good slap because you're hysterical.

Hey, no slappy, Slappy.

23 posted on 10/08/2001 11:31:58 PM PDT by ouroboros
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To: lelio
"Where's a leggy picture of Ann Coulter?"

Hmmmm....

Don't seem to have any handy.

Will Cheryl Ladd do?


25 posted on 10/08/2001 11:33:24 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: ouroboros
here are still a few voices of reason and noninterventionism on the forum, but they number maybe a couple of dozen, at most, while the warmongering majority rank in the several thousand. Disheartening, to say the least.

We are a voice of reason only if we disagree with President Bush and his policy of wiping Terrorism off the globe. So sad that only those against Bush are correct. I think History will prove that we and President Bush to be correct. I do not want to spend the rest of my life waiting on the other shoe to drop.

26 posted on 10/08/2001 11:35:22 PM PDT by Yellow Rose of Texas
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To: ouroboros
THIS WONDERFUL SITE

IS persistently better and better, in my view.

I'm unaware of any Big Gov efforts to force FR screen fulls on anyone's retina's.

Maybe he feels guilty reading so much original, independent good ideas and comments vs the "normal" news--so he has to attack to try and place himself back in the mass brainless bleedia's good graces?

27 posted on 10/08/2001 11:36:13 PM PDT by Quix
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To: Eskimo;Zviadist;independentmind;susangirl;Rebeckie;Twodees;x;CubicleGuy;SamAdams76;Mark17;DoughtyOne

28 posted on 10/08/2001 11:44:30 PM PDT by ouroboros
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To: ouroboros
Under their new "Loose Lips Sink Ships" philosophy FR is now yanking breaking news stories regarding attacks launched on the Taliban, even though anyone can turn on the TV or go to one of the major news sites and get the information for themselves.
I have been reading this website for three whole days now. One of the first things I did was read some of the stuff that Mr. Robinson wrote about this place. The impression I got about the Loose Lips thing was that we don't want to post any troop movements that we might know about because of our location. Like knowing X is happening at Ft. Campbell, or Ft. Hood, depending on where you live. No one seems very knee jerk at the administrative level, that I have seen, yet. There are always a few loose cannons in any group. We just have to take the good with the bad. Considering what happened on our own soil, I have no use for doves. This has nothing to do with being consistent in your beliefs, this has to do with right and wrong. Period.
30 posted on 10/08/2001 11:50:04 PM PDT by TheLionessRN
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To: ouroboros
Oh, it's 'U' again. Ok slap-nuts, go kiss the Lewser lol.
31 posted on 10/08/2001 11:51:45 PM PDT by Darheel
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To: ouroboros
You used to be able to open the old FR White Water threads (courtesy of Google's cache). They were superb.

Now you can't even do that!

Free Republic used to be a wonderful site. Posters were thoughtful and deliberative in their research and were unfailingly civil to each other in their posts.

Then came the Bushies and all the anti-McCain stuff and a general degradation of content. FR became a noisey "Freeper" screechathon or a "Rah! Rah! Dubya" site.... Too bad... Many of the FR veterans simply voted with their feet and left.

32 posted on 10/08/2001 11:52:38 PM PDT by slym
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To: TheLionessRN
Welcome to FR ...... :-)

You seem too have picked up on some things that are way over the heads of "seasoned" FReepers. Way to go!

33 posted on 10/08/2001 11:55:46 PM PDT by kayak
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To: lelio

34 posted on 10/09/2001 12:03:13 AM PDT by backslacker
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To: kayak
I want to know why there is another thread saying this one was pulled? It makes no sense at all. Are people feeding this to each other to make themselves feel better about the big bad website?
35 posted on 10/09/2001 12:03:23 AM PDT by TheLionessRN
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To: ouroboros
What's he smoking? LOL
36 posted on 10/09/2001 12:11:47 AM PDT by brat
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To: slym
Yeah, us newbies really can't contribute anything, so we're leaving. Yup, you made us mad and now we're leaving, we'll let ourselves out, sorry for spoiling the party lol lol

'It was only out of pure kindnes to his horse that he buttered his hay...' King Lear

37 posted on 10/09/2001 12:13:18 AM PDT by Darheel
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To: ouroboros
Blah, blah, blah....

And now,

                

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38 posted on 10/09/2001 12:15:07 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: ouroboros
Wow: 37 replies and not one of 'em jumps on his "war on drugs" bait.

Must be some kinda record.

39 posted on 10/09/2001 12:18:05 AM PDT by CubicleGuy
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To: TheLionessRN
I have no clue. It may be that it was put in Breaking News and it was pulled from that sidebar and people are mistakenly thinking that it was pulled from the forum altogether.

The ability to pull things from Breaking News is new here and a lot of people are not understanding it. Lately I have seen a number of threads that people were saying had been pulled that were still on the forum so I think there's just a misunderstanding.

Just in the last few months, a group called Sidebar Moderators have been carefully selected by JimRob who have the power to move threads out of the sidebars ..... but they often remain on the forum ..... unless they are pulled completely for other reasons. It has caused a lot of controversy, mostly by FReepers who haven't bothered to try to understand this new function.

40 posted on 10/09/2001 12:19:10 AM PDT by kayak
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