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Look Who's Waving the Flag Now
The Weekly Standard ^ | 10/15/2001 | Noemie Emery

Posted on 10/08/2001 8:22:56 AM PDT by Pokey78

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1 posted on 10/08/2001 8:22:56 AM PDT by Pokey78
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2 posted on 10/08/2001 8:23:39 AM PDT by Pokey78
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From The Enemies Within by Gerald L. Atkinson....

"For example, Michelle Malkin, a nationally syndicated columnist, writes ('Berkeley vs. America ... again,' Wash. Times, 9/25/01) "President Bush urged citizens last week to go back to work and try to restore normalcy to their everyday lives.
Accordingly, the Peoples Republic of Berkeley, CA, wasted no time in returning to its business as usual: stifling political dissent under the guise of 'tolerance,' stamping out every last ember of patriotism for the cause of 'peace,' and hating America while greedily feasting off the fruits of freedom so lovingly tended by their fellow countrymen."

"The home of the Free Speech Movement spent much of the week attempting to squelch the free speech of those who were outraged by the 9-11 terrorist attacks. According to KPIX-TV in San Francisco, firefighters in Berkeley were ordered to take American flags off their trucks in advance of an anti-war rally.

An assistant chief told the station that the safety of flag-waving firefighters 'could be compromised if protesters try to remove the flags and destroy them.' Only in Berkeley must firefighters fear retaliation from self-righteous 'pacifists.'"

3 posted on 10/08/2001 8:32:09 AM PDT by prognostigaator
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I love my country to death, but I'll be damned if I'll watch "When Pets Attack II".
4 posted on 10/08/2001 8:36:54 AM PDT by martin_fierro
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I love my country to death, but I'll be damned if I'll watch "When Pets Attack II".

Or, for that matter, a Barbara Streisand concert.

5 posted on 10/08/2001 8:42:59 AM PDT by martin_fierro
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To: Pokey78
Nice Piece. GWB as Truman...Kennedy ? Probably not.
6 posted on 10/08/2001 8:45:33 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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Great find. Major truths. The "elite" democrats think it's "sophisticated" to feel scorne for the USA. What losers...

A healthy skepticism about the uses of power is always in order, but a smartass contempt for one's country and one's fellow citizens is something quite different. Most Democrats now get this; some students are learning. And one day, it may dawn on the chattering class.

7 posted on 10/08/2001 8:57:49 AM PDT by GOPJ
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....discovering thier "inner hawk." Very clever, very true.
8 posted on 10/08/2001 8:57:58 AM PDT by Theresa
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Good analysis of the 'elistist' left although not news to most conservatives.

The left hate the middle class; always have. The freedoms that allow 'regular' people to be educated and prosper but not necessarily adopt elistist 'values' and attitudes is unacceptable to these types, who would be right at home in some 18th century society consisting of nobility and peasants...and no middle class. It's always been a case of class warfare for the liberal elite, now it's become obvious.

Recent events are smoking them out and shining the light of day on these hate-America types, and our country will be better for their demise of their influence in the body politic.

9 posted on 10/08/2001 8:58:21 AM PDT by Jim Scott
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remember that great line in Forrset Gump ? "sometimes there just aren't enuff rocks" ? to add....sometimes there are not enuff JAWBONES OF AN ASS.
10 posted on 10/08/2001 9:02:51 AM PDT by cactusSharp
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In the long war for the soul of national Democrats

Talk about unwinnable. Everyone knows dems don't have souls.

11 posted on 10/08/2001 9:05:41 AM PDT by Lizzy W
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Well, they certainly style themselves as "thinking people," but what seems most notable about this particular set of anti-American sentiments is its unthinking and reflexive nature, and its nearly total disconnect from real-world events. The left began shouting "stop the bombing" three weeks before it began, decrying the death of innocents long before these were anything but New Yorkers. Rather than adapt to circumstances they merely dredged up the same set of bumper-sticker slogans used for the last thirty-five years, the same set of anti-American foreign policy complaints that have little to do with the current situation. "Poverty" is considered the culprit although our principal enemy is a multimillionaire. Support for Israel is considered the culprit although Palestinian terrorists are notable for their absence. Anti-Moslem policies are considered the culprit despite our intervention in the favor of Muslims against more secular Muslims.

What we are seeing is the last thrashings of an intellectually bankrupt movement that has been superceded by events and does not even realize it. This is possible because of its academic havens, the very last to respond to changes in real-world events. They are now obsolete and will become funnier, and sadder, as time goes on.

12 posted on 10/08/2001 9:06:34 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Worth reading for Barone on Stevenson.

This split exists on the left in other countries, and also on the right. National Review and the Weekly Standard think of the protestors and anti-Americans when they think of the enemy on the Left. Lew Rockwell and antiwar.com consider that Truman-Kennedy-Johnson interventionist statism to be itself the foe. Curiously, NR and TWS have been open to contributions from Democratic Cold Warriors and the Rockwellites link up with Chomskyites.

Every war means growth of state power. What the Rockwellites don't see is that sometimes such growth is necessary for self-defence. I don't fault Roosevelt or Truman for doing what they had to do to defend the country and it's interests. The problem is that a national mystique is created that can be used to suppress dissent or expand federal powers beyond what is justified by necessity.

13 posted on 10/08/2001 9:16:11 AM PDT by x
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Most Democrats now get this; some students are learning. And one day, it may dawn on the chattering class.

Let's call them the chattering ass(es) instead. ;)

14 posted on 10/08/2001 9:23:02 AM PDT by Brett66
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To: Pokey78
What is someone calling himself a progessive?
15 posted on 10/08/2001 9:28:21 AM PDT by larryjohnson
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To: Theresa
I agree. I love the expression "dicovering their inner hawk"

My favorite is the description of the leftist "elite" given by:

"..the noisy group of chattering asses who are elected by no one, and spend their time talking."

16 posted on 10/08/2001 9:44:05 AM PDT by Will
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Conservatives have always considered patriotism to be matter of respect. Liberals allowed it to become a matter of perspective. When they eliminated respect from the equation they took the conscious of America away.
Our conscious is back now and it is a matter of respect. Respect for the Passengers of Flight 93 who fought back, and all the men and women who defend our flag in military service. It is our turn to fight back now.
17 posted on 10/08/2001 12:06:54 PM PDT by Fearless Flyers
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C-Span has shown its political stripes. It has not allowed its on air people to wear flag lapel pins or red, white and blue ribbons.

The reasoning given was as convoluted as anything I've seen so far. Its very difficult to show your patriotism these days.

I hope the wrath of God rains down on Brian Lamb. He deserves it - what a wimp and Kow-Tower to that class of so called Americans like Jane Fondle and the border hoppers to Canada during the Vietnam War.

18 posted on 10/08/2001 12:20:32 PM PDT by hgro
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I'm just mystified by some of the leftist views. How can flying the flag be bad or wrong? Does not not represent love for our country? What's with the news media not wearing it? Are they trying to deny they are Americans?

Can someone explain the leftists' illogic?

19 posted on 10/08/2001 10:01:21 PM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner
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In the long war for the soul of national Democrats, the tide seems to be swinging back in the direction of Truman and Kennedy--veterans, patriots, and ardent Cold Warriors who had no patience at all with moral equivalence. At the same time, George W. Bush is becoming a president rather like Truman and Kennedy, an energetic defender of national interests,

Truman -- the man who stood by as Stalin took over Eastern Europe and Mao took over China, whose government allowed the Soviet Union to steal the secret to the atom bomb and build the H-bomb before us, who nearly lost Korea and fired MacArthur for rescuing it back.

Kennedy -- who let Cuban freedom fighters die on the beach, who proclaimed he was a doughnut at the building of the Berlin Wall, who assassinated President Diem in Vietnam and thereby gave that country to Communism, who campaigned against the 'missile gap' but actually let the Soviets catch up.

I hate to think what an 'unenergetic' defender of the national interests would be like, but Clinton must lurk nearby.

20 posted on 10/08/2001 10:17:41 PM PDT by 537 Votes
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