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Berlusconi backs western civilization
Townhall.com ^ | October 8, 2001 | Don Feder

Posted on 10/08/2001 3:03:39 AM PDT by Sabertooth

Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi's comment that Western civilization is superior to Islamic culture, while obvious to all whose minds aren't locked in a prison of political correctness, took guts to say.

That Europeans reacted to Berlusconi -- a bright light on a continent of dim bulbs -- with outrage and horror is symptomatic of the malaise afflicting the West.

"We should be conscious of the superiority of our civilization, which consists of a value system that has given people widespread prosperity ... and guarantees respect for human rights and religion," Berlusconi told a group of journalists. "This respect certainly does not exist in Islamic countries."

"I can hardly believe Mr. Berlusconi made such remarks," wailed Belgian Prime Minister Guy Verhofstadt, who assured us the European Union "is based on values such as multiculturalism and the meeting of different civilizations."

For Europe's elite, it is a matter of faith that all cultures are created equal.

Thus, a civilization that gave the world democracy, civil liberties and the industrial revolution and computer age is judged no better than a culture where democracy is unknown, rights non-existent, tribal bloodshed the norm and a few live in palaces while most inhabit hovels.

Democracy is as alien to the Islamic world as Jimmy Dean's pork sausage.

There are one-party regimes (Syria, Libya, Iraq, the Sudan, Afghanistan), oligarchies with parliamentary facades (Egypt, Jordan, Algeria, the Palestinian Authority), military dictatorships (Pakistan) and traditional Islamic regimes (Saudi Arabia, Iran and the Gulf states).

In the West, the opposition is represented. In the East, it's interred. In 1970, Jordan's King Hussein crushed PLO forces, killing 20,000 in a week. In 1982, the late Hafez Assad of Syria liquidated the entire city of Hama, center of a Sunni revolt. In 1998, the Taliban systematically slaughtered thousands of ethnic Hasara -- some had their throats cut, others were suffocated inside metal containers. An estimated 100,000 have died in Algeria's decade-old civil war.

The Taliban judge presiding over the trail of Western aid workers accused of Christian proselytizing says they'll get a fair trial. Would that be before or after he hangs them?

In our new ally, Pakistan, a professor is on death row for contradicting orthodox Moslem teaching. In Egypt, Saad Eddin Ibrahim was sentenced to seven years hard labor for "defaming" the nation by documenting persecution of Coptic Christians. A friend of mine, a Pakistani lawyer, was asked to lecture to an American audience on religious tolerance in the Islamic world. "I told them it does not exist," he laughingly informed me.

On this point, you won't get an argument from Christians and animists in Sudan, Jews and Bahais in Iran, Serbs in Kosovo, Hindus in Afghanistan or Christians in Indonesia (subjected to a campaign of forced conversion).

Diversity and tolerance aren't the only things in short supply in this part of the world, which has little of value except oil -- a resource discovered and developed by Westerners.

Egypt doesn't give America $2 billion annually in foreign aid. Italians don't enter North Africa illegally seeking a better life. One reason fundamentalists loathe Western capitalism is the vivid contrast it provides to their backwardness.

Islam made significant contributions to science and mathematics -- roughly a millennium ago. More recently, it has enriched humanity with such concepts as jihad, fatwa, clitorectomies, "honor killings" (of female relations accused of sex outside marriage), amputating limbs as punishment for various offenses and suicide bombings. The 19 men accused of perpetrating the horrors of Sept. 11 all had names like Ahmed and Muhammad. Would you believe it, there wasn't a Shawn or Seymour among them.

If the Arab League is offended by this assessment -- well, I don't see any paeans to our culture penned by the mullahs or imams. They're too busy denouncing Western decadence, economics and political

Only the West is afflicted with self-doubt. Only we have succumbed to the doctrine of cultural equivalence.

When America went to war with Nazism and Japanese militarism, it was with the unshakeable conviction that Judeo-Christian culture was superior to these throwbacks to the Dark Ages. Those who would defend civilization must first acknowledge that it is preferable to the alternative.

©2001 Creators Syndicate, Inc.


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To: Sabertooth
Thanks for the bump

"We should be conscious of the superiority of our civilization, which consists of a value system that has given people widespread prosperity ... and guarantees respect for human rights and religion," Berlusconi told a group of journalists...

Amen.
The best way to end war and to ensure peace is to kill the enemy.

61 posted on 10/08/2001 1:35:02 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba
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To: Sabertooth
Thank you. Good post.

"I can hardly believe Mr. Berlusconi made such remarks," wailed Belgian Prime Minister Guy Verhofstadt...

What 'a you expect from a Belgian for cryin' out loud. They haven't won a round since they were busy committing genocide in the Congo over a century ago.

62 posted on 10/08/2001 2:21:34 PM PDT by metesky
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To: dennisw
Well I could have saluted Italian women (some of the world's loveliest), or Italian cars (some of the world's fastest) or Italian art(some of the world's finest) but alas I just went for the lowest common denominator. Italian food from all parts is quite wonderful..(unlike Scotland for instance). In any fish and broth style dish except Gumbo type stuff, the fish should be added lastly and one should use a fish stock to season the dish during the main simmering session . This goes for Paella, Zuppa de Mariscos, Bouillabaise etc.

In my modest culinary opinion.

Regards and how about a Monica Belluci bump this go around!!!!

63 posted on 10/08/2001 2:56:17 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Sabertooth
Thanks for the heads up, Saber. I wonder about the same thing you do: If the people are so loving and tolerant, why do they put up with the mutilation of their women, the Vice and Virtue beatings, and more?
64 posted on 10/08/2001 11:36:42 PM PDT by kmiller1k
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To: matamoros
French and German here so I'm SOL-if you can post it.
66 posted on 10/09/2001 3:36:31 AM PDT by ninonitti
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To: wardaddy
Yeah definitely the fish is slipped in last. Into the simmering soup. My favorite fish soup is the thin milky one at No Name Restarant in Boston. Eat it while real hot and add some black pepper to it. I despise creamy soups and chowders.
67 posted on 10/09/2001 6:26:25 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
I'm hungry now. Diet coke and a fat cigar make for a lousy breakfast.
68 posted on 10/09/2001 9:13:54 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: 2sheep
If one goes to the London museum and sees the Babylonian,Sumerian,Hittite and other displays prior to a certain Prophet 3000-4000 odd years ago the Middle East and Egypt had advanced civilizations whilst our ancestors were painting themselves blue and playing with big rocks.The genetics are there for much,much better.
70 posted on 10/09/2001 2:48:02 PM PDT by Governor StrangeReno
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To: matamoros
Wez poprawke na 'Wyborcza". Adas M. z bojownika o wolnosc zrobil sie bojownikiem o socjalizm. Fallaci to znane nazwisko jeszcze z czasow "zimnej wojny". Wszelkie plotki zaczynaly sie od tej reporterki. Obserwujac wsciekla nagonke wszelkich lewicowych pism na swiecie na Berlusconi jestem raczej sklonny wierzyc w jego pozniejsze wyjasnienia (publikowane zreszta przez ta sama "Corriere della Sera). Przeszukalem cala "Wyborcza" on line i nie ma sladu po tym artykule, co jest tez dosc podejrzane.

Scan would be nice. if you have time, of course. I would love to have it. Thanks in advance.

71 posted on 10/09/2001 3:32:35 PM PDT by CommiesOut
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To: matamoros
Mieszkam w okolicach Waszyngtonu.

Polish doesn't belong to the easiest languages and your sixth language is very impressive. Congrats!

73 posted on 10/10/2001 9:25:23 AM PDT by CommiesOut
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To: Sabertooth
Contemporary U.S. and European cultures have their share of problems (think of the recent Clintonian past), but, without getting overly Manichaean in the comparison, Berlusconi was right. Anyone want their hand or head chopped off by an Islamic saber? How about women completely covered with pup tents? Crazy guys shooting machine guns in the air on public streets? And an oily towel-head in a mountain cave listening to Allah telling him to kill women and children? Any gal here want to apply for a job in a Middle Eastern harem? We need to hear from moral relativists, multiculturalists, and anti-Christian bashers...Who among American "liberals" would like to spend the rest of their lives in Iraq, Libya, the hills of Afghanistan or Lebanon?... Let them promote their half-baked secularist socialism there...
74 posted on 10/10/2001 9:28:25 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: matamoros
Someone hates this Berlusconi dude big time. Now he is an Arab lover and Israel hater. LOL! More
75 posted on 10/13/2001 10:37:29 PM PDT by CommiesOut
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To: Sabertooth
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76 posted on 10/30/2001 12:20:46 AM PST by timestax
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77 posted on 07/02/2003 11:47:34 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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78 posted on 07/03/2003 5:53:16 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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