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To: proud2bRC
We do, indeed pray for each other while we are here on Earth, but when we stand before the Lord on that day, we will give an accounting of ourselves, not for others. - Each will have his own moment. That is scriptural.

God's word also says that the dead cannot communicate with the living. Our only link beyond this world is the Holy Spirit, all other spirits are Antichrist, and are forbidden.

134 posted on 10/07/2001 7:35:39 PM PDT by editor-surveyor
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To: editor-surveyor
If you are going to be "dead" in the next life, so be it. Not me. I plan on being Alive in Christ Jesus, in Heaven. The "dead" are in Hell in the next life. That is scriptural. Your idea that those in Heaven are "dead" is nonsense.

Summary of Biblical Evidences

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A. Prayers for the Dead

Tobit 12:12;  2 Macc 12:39-45; 1 Cor 15:29; 2 Tim 1:16-18.
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B. Dead Saints Are Aware of Earthly Affairs

Mt 22:30 w/ Lk 15:7,10 & 1 Cor 4:9; Heb 12:1.
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C. Dead Saints Intercede For Those On Earth

Jer 15:1; 2 Macc 15:14; Rev 6:9-10.
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D. Intercessory Mediation of Saints and Angels

Tobit 12:12-15; Rev 5:8 and 8:3-4.
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E. Dead Saints Appear On Earth to Interact With Men

1 Sam 28:12-15 with Ecclesiasticus 46:20; 2 Macc 15:13-16; Mt 17:1-3 and 27:50-53; Rev 11:3.
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F. Guardian Angels

Ps 34:7; 91:11; Mt 18:10; Acts 12:15; Heb 1:14.
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G. Angels Are Aware of Our Thoughts

Lk 15:10; 1 Cor 4:9.
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H. Angels Participate In the Giving of God's Grace

Rev 1:4.
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The great Anglican writer and Christian apologist C.S. Lewis, in one of his last books, wrote:
". . . devotions to saints . . . There is clearly a theological defense for it; if you can ask for the prayers of the living, why should you not ask for the prayers of the dead? I am not thinking of adopting the practice myself; and who am I to judge the practices of others?"

{Letters to Malcolm: Chiefly On Prayer, NY: Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, 1964, pp.15-16}


144 posted on 10/07/2001 7:46:02 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: editor-surveyor
This country is based on freedom of religion...I respect your right to practice your religion and I wouldn't think of insulting you over your beliefs...why do you feel the need to insult us?
146 posted on 10/07/2001 7:48:55 PM PDT by ruoflaw
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To: editor-surveyor
God's word also says that the dead cannot communicate with the living.

Nothing in Scripture says "the dead cannot communicate with the living," and, in any case, those who die in Christ are not dead. He said so, right there in the Gospel of Matthew:

022:029 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

022:030 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

022:031 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,

022:032 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

Besides, you seriously want to suggest that Jesus was sinning when he talked to Moses and Elijah at the Transfiguration?

Our only link beyond this world is the Holy Spirit, all other spirits are Antichrist, and are forbidden.

Except that 1 John 4:1 disagrees with you when it says:

004:001 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
It says "try [that is, test] every spirit," not "every spirit except the Holy Spirit is Antichrist".

Why do you believe such unBiblical doctrines?

150 posted on 10/07/2001 7:56:13 PM PDT by Campion
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