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Sr. Lucy Receives New Message
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Posted on 10/07/2001 4:41:26 PM PDT by HapaxLegamenon

Michael Matt, editor of the Remnant a traditionalist Catholic newspaper published the following report on their website. We have been informed by a reliable contact in France that Sister Lucy (the only surviving seer of the Fatima apparitions) has delivered a message to Carmelite sisters in France. According to this report, Sister Lucy recently received another communication from the Mother of God. In the wake of that communication, we are told, Sister Lucy has asked Carmelite sisters throughout the world to pray specifically on the Feast of the Most Holy Rosary for a special intention. That intention is, we are told, that the world might be spared “a blood bath.” Whether this has any connection to the impending war with Islamic terrorists, we have no way of knowing. Though our French source is reliable, we have not been able to confirm this report ourselves, and are now in the process of trying to do so. At least two Carmelite convents in the United States have indicated to us that they have NOT received such a message. One Carmelite convent, however, did confirm that they did receive a letter from the Asociatcion Ntra. Sca Del Rosario in Fatima Portugal (dated September 13th, 2001), which did call on the Carmelite order to unite with Sister Lucy in praying for peace in the world on October 7—the Feast of the Holy Rosary. In this letter (written in Spanish) there was no mention of a recent communication to Sister Lucy from Our Lady, nor was there reference to a “blood bath.” We are presently waiting for the text of the French version. In any event, we believe that, because time is short between now and the Feast of the Holy Rosary, it would be a good idea for all Catholics to join the Carmelites in praying for this intention on tomorrow’s Feast. Such an intention is a certainly most worthy, especially right now; so even if this French report turns out to be somehow exaggerated, the intention is still well worth remembering during this critical hour of unrest and uncertainty in the world.


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To: HapaxLegamenon
Sorry, I posted my reply to the list, it wasn't met specificly to you.

Actually the reply was to me and me alone, I accept your apology and it is forgotten already

Personally, I am working through the Cathecism and the Bible currently, with no desire to dig further, until I have completed those

P.S. It's just not liberals, I'd be careful not to post too much Catholic stuff on this site. To many "Christians" who think we are a Polytheistic, Satanic cult. That's why I tend to avoid religious threads. The bigotry is overwhelming.

81 posted on 10/07/2001 6:35:13 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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To: HapaxLegamenon
"Scripture refers the Mary as the Mother of Our Savior. "

Yes, the mother of his earthly body, but not the mother of the part if him who is God, and who created us all. - God the Son, the Logos, created Mary, just as he created you and me; how could she be the mother of God the Son?

Mary is merely a human who was given the most blessed calling of any woman. - She is not God in any way. - She cannot 'interceed' for anyone, only Christ himself can do that.

82 posted on 10/07/2001 6:35:50 PM PDT by editor-surveyor
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To: fortitude
How I long for the Latin Mass of my childhood. I notice you are from NY.. Where do you find a Traditional Mass?
83 posted on 10/07/2001 6:37:31 PM PDT by katnip
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To: editor-surveyor
She is mother of the Savior. You might divide up the Lord, but Our Savior is ONE.

My post are meant for those who have passed Freshman Logic 101, and understands the supposition of words!

84 posted on 10/07/2001 6:39:45 PM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
I can't relay the story of the Battle of Laponto any better than Father Moderator of Tradio.com: He states:

Today is October 7. It is the day on which Christians commemorate the military victory that saved Europe from being overrun by the Mohammedans (otherwise known as Muslims or Islamics). The historic sea battle of October 7, 1571, took place off Lepanto in the Gulf of Corinth in southern Greece.

Some background. Islam arose in the eighth century at Mecca in Arabia after one Mohammed had a mystical vision, allegedly of the Archangel Gabriel. His new sect advanced westward by terrorism through the Christian lands of Egypt, Libya, and what is today called Algeria and Morocco. Today, hardly a single Christian has survived in these countries. While we (including the pope at the Vatican) allow Muslims to build mosques, the Muslims do not allow Christians to build churches.

That is why it is said that Islam is not so much a religion of the word as a religion of the sword. The practice of the militant Muslims was to cut off the heads of their victims. Ask the people of Mindinao in the Philippines whether they do this. Or the people of Kosovo after the "ethnic Albanian" invasion.

A hundred years after Mohammed's vision, the followers of Islam had conquered Spain and were pouring into France. Their advance was repelled at the Battle of Poitiers in year 732 by French Christian forces led by Charles Martel, father of the Holy Roman Emperor, Charlemagne. The Spanish tried again and again to be rid of this scourge. But they did not manage to drive them out for eight hundred long years. Back in the east, the crescent swept northwards, consuming in blood, fire and sword the Holy Land, Syria, and Persia. Once fertile lands were turned into deserts by these uncivilized nomads and their constant fighting.

With the Turko-Mongol invasions of the 13th century, the inhabitants of the Middle East became subject to a new people. The Turks adopted Islam. Nearly all Muslims of the Middle East today are either of Turkish descent or descendants of the original Christian inhabitants who renounced their faith when confronted with the persuasive power of the sword. The political center of the Muslim Empire had shifted from Arabia to Turkey.

Under Ozman, the Turks took up the Arab's holy war against Christianity, advancing on Byzantium, or Constantinople, capital of the successor to the Holy Roman Empire, the Byzantine Empire. By the time of Murad I, the Byzantine Empire had been reduced to the lonely city of Constantinople. Millions of Christians were dead, and millions of others had been compelled to convert to Islam. In 1453 Constantinople finally fell to the Muslims.

Pope Pius V called on the monarchs of Europe to join in the urgent defence of Christendom. The action that was to follow was the biggest naval engagement anywhere on the globe since Octavian defeated Marc Antony in the Battle of Actium in 30 B.C. Propelled by a favourable wind, the Muslim ships advanced in crescent moon formation in the Bay of Lepanto. The Christian admiral, Don Juan, knelt in prayer. Suddenly the wind changed. The two fleets charged, firing their cannon, and, coming alongside, the men met in hand-to-hand combat. The Muslim admiral, Ali Pasha, was killed. The Crusaders had won. 8,000 Europeans had been killed and 25,000 Turks. 15,000 Christian slaves who had been rowing in the Turkish galleys were liberated.

At that moment Pope Pius V had a vision. He suddenly got up and went to the window, peered at the sky, and then turning to those present, announced, "This is not the time for doing business. Let us return thanks to God. Our armada has even now defeated the Turkish fleet." The people of Rome had prayed the prayer of the Rosary in vigil throughout the eve of the battle and into the day.

The feastday of 7 October is honored as a victory accomplished by the prayerful intercession of Our Lady on behalf of her children, Mary Help of Christians, Our Lady of Victories. Catholics now call this day the feastday of Our Lady Of the Most Holy Rosary. It was a sad and ominous day, January 29, 1965, when Pope Paul VI handed the glorious standard of Lepanto, snatched in a daring attack from the Turkish flagship, back to the Turks. This is not scripture, it is history.

Please, if you can remember from your Catholic schooling how to recite the Rosary, do so this month, the month of the Holy Rosary. I firmly beleive that it will be through the intercession of the Blessed Mother that peace will ultimately come to this world. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- An Easy Answer From

85 posted on 10/07/2001 6:40:14 PM PDT by fortitude
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To: Lazamataz
"My G-d is bigger than your G-d. He can knock the stuffing out of your G-d. "

Seems to me that you once declaired yourself an atheist, or agnostic (?) - If so, God wins by default, yours is a no-show :-)

86 posted on 10/07/2001 6:42:28 PM PDT by editor-surveyor
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To: HapaxLegamenon
"My post are meant for those who have passed Freshman Logic 101, and understands the supposition of words!"

Tell me, Has God taken, and passed your earthly 'logic' course? :-)

87 posted on 10/07/2001 6:45:54 PM PDT by editor-surveyor
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To: editor-surveyor
Nuh-uh (shaking head vigorously).

I'm Jooish. That means I'm chosen and everything. ;^)

88 posted on 10/07/2001 6:46:16 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: fortitude
It's their creed that's problematic, I think.
89 posted on 10/07/2001 6:46:29 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
I find it curious that Joseph Smith (who started the Mormon religion) claimed to have been visited by an angel just like Mohammed claimed.

Thank God that the Book of Mormon was actually a novel (stolen by Joseph Smith's buddy who worked as an apprentice in a print shop) written by a retired Methodist minister!

IMHO, the Moslem religion is just as big a hoax as the Mormon religion. Difference is that one is very deadly and the other is not.

90 posted on 10/07/2001 6:47:32 PM PDT by smolensk
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To: Squire
And October 13 is coming up. That and May 13 are significant days relating to Fatima.
91 posted on 10/07/2001 6:47:42 PM PDT by L`enn
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To: editor-surveyor
Yes, the mother of his earthly body, but not the mother of the part if him who is God, and who created us all. - God the Son, the Logos, created Mary, just as he created you and me; how could she be the mother of God the Son?

Judiasm rocks.

We only got one G-d. :o)

92 posted on 10/07/2001 6:47:43 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: katnip
Dear Katnip,

You've got mail!

Regards!

93 posted on 10/07/2001 6:48:14 PM PDT by fortitude
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To: editor-surveyor
Mary was perfect!!!!!!
94 posted on 10/07/2001 6:48:30 PM PDT by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: Squire
They who declared St. Joan a witch were hardly "orthodox Catholic sources." They were clergy acting beyond their authority and in contravention of both ecclesiastical law and basic moral principles. And their findings were overturned by the Holy See when it reviewed the case several years after her "conviction."

Joan of Arc's case was only looked at -- 25 years after her execution by the Catholic church -- because the king of France, restored to his throne by Joan in person, was being called "An illegitimate king" because he was placed there by a duly convicted (per the Catholic church) witch.

What I'm writing is factual -- something had to be done to save that worthless king; and the Orthodox" Catholic authorities found a way to do it.

In today's world, you can marry in the Catholic church, have five kids, and get your marriage annulled. Guess what that takes?

95 posted on 10/07/2001 6:49:20 PM PDT by thinktwice
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To: FITZ
Especially the prediction of the Kristalnacht and the Rise and Fall of the Soviet Union.
96 posted on 10/07/2001 6:49:29 PM PDT by L`enn
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To: HapaxLegamenon
I have a special devotion to Our Lady of Fatima-Our Lady of the Rosary,now is the time to pray and let everyone join in.
97 posted on 10/07/2001 6:49:32 PM PDT by fatima
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To: Katie_Colic
That is because they along with Islam have problems with the Trinity.
98 posted on 10/07/2001 6:51:54 PM PDT by L`enn
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To: Unam Sanctam
Yeah. Way back when, a Matt founded the Wanderer. He had two sons, one of which still runs that paper--the other went off the deep end (there ARE enemies to the right,) and founded the Remnant.

Mike Matt is son of Remnant founder, and is absolutely nutso. May or may not be SSPX (lotsa neo-Nazis in that bunch, BTW,) but his screaming defiance of JPII places him in excommunication-land.

Pray for him, too.

99 posted on 10/07/2001 6:53:04 PM PDT by ninenot
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To: L`enn; Katie_Colic
That is because they along with Islam have problems with the Trinity.

Amen, I mean BUMP

100 posted on 10/07/2001 6:54:03 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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