Posted on 10/07/2001 4:41:26 PM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
Michael Matt, editor of the Remnant a traditionalist Catholic newspaper published the following report on their website. We have been informed by a reliable contact in France that Sister Lucy (the only surviving seer of the Fatima apparitions) has delivered a message to Carmelite sisters in France. According to this report, Sister Lucy recently received another communication from the Mother of God. In the wake of that communication, we are told, Sister Lucy has asked Carmelite sisters throughout the world to pray specifically on the Feast of the Most Holy Rosary for a special intention. That intention is, we are told, that the world might be spared “a blood bath.” Whether this has any connection to the impending war with Islamic terrorists, we have no way of knowing. Though our French source is reliable, we have not been able to confirm this report ourselves, and are now in the process of trying to do so. At least two Carmelite convents in the United States have indicated to us that they have NOT received such a message. One Carmelite convent, however, did confirm that they did receive a letter from the Asociatcion Ntra. Sca Del Rosario in Fatima Portugal (dated September 13th, 2001), which did call on the Carmelite order to unite with Sister Lucy in praying for peace in the world on October 7—the Feast of the Holy Rosary. In this letter (written in Spanish) there was no mention of a recent communication to Sister Lucy from Our Lady, nor was there reference to a “blood bath.” We are presently waiting for the text of the French version. In any event, we believe that, because time is short between now and the Feast of the Holy Rosary, it would be a good idea for all Catholics to join the Carmelites in praying for this intention on tomorrow’s Feast. Such an intention is a certainly most worthy, especially right now; so even if this French report turns out to be somehow exaggerated, the intention is still well worth remembering during this critical hour of unrest and uncertainty in the world.
I can't disagree with that sentiment.
If I was suffering, I could and would ask you, a fellow committed Christian with a personal relationship with Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. Likewise you could ask me for prayer. Paul recommends we pray and intercede for one another. That is intercessrory prayer.
Now if I were visiting you in your home, and you asked me in earnest to pray for your affliction, I would indeed do so. I would take it before the Lord Jesus Christ in prayer that very day.
Does death hold any power over you? Does death hold any power of me?
No.
We are both alive in Christ.
If as I left your home, I was killed in an accident, I am still alive in Christ, a fellow brother in the Lord. That human death holds no power over me.
As I come before the throne of Jesus christ, still alive in Jesus christ just as I was on earth, and just as you are now still, will I forget the pleading of my brother in Christ?
No.
I will take your needs before the Lord in Heaven.
Furthermore, I am still alive in Christ. You are still alive in Christ. Death still holds no power over either of us.
Because we are both still "saints" alive in Christ, we can both still pray for each other.
Furthermore, since death holds NO POWER over either of us, we can both still be brothers in Christ, we can both still be in communion with each other and with Christ.
Part of that communion in Christ is a continuation of our intercession for one another. I can still intercede for you. You can STILL ask me to intercede for you for we are both still brothers in Christ for whom death holds no power. Since in Heaven I exist outside the space and time of earth, there is no time as we know it on earth. Our life there is purely a participation in the life of the Holy Trinity and a sharing in the Beatific vision.
So if you alone come to me to ask my intercession in Heaven, as we are both still alive in Christ, I will indeed hear and answer you.
Furthermore, if a billion Christians come to me for intercession, in Heaven, outside the space and time of earth, dwelling in ETERNITY, I will have ETERNITY to hear and answer ALL those billions of requests for intercession.
That is, simply put, the whole basis for asking for the intercessory prayer of Mary. In all the lines above, susbtitute Mary for me. It is simple, biblical, and fundamentally Christian.
Then why, in the book of Revelation, did he address "The Seven Churches which are in Asia" and leave out the church in Rome?
You catholics need to think thing out a bit better :-)
ROFLMAO... Oh I needed that laugh tonight, thanks :):):)
;^)
This is textbook example of the Christological heresy called Nestorianism, which was condemned at the Ecumenical Council of Ephesus in AD 431.
Mothers are not mothers of "parts" of persons, but mothers of persons, period. Jesus wasn't a person with a divine "part" and a human "part," but a person who united both a human nature and a divine nature in one divine person. This is what orthodox Christianity has always believed, both before and after the Reformation.
Catholic Mariology exists, in large part, to defend the truth of Christ's incarnation. If Mary is not the Mother of God, then Jesus is not really God. If Jesus is really God, then Mary is very properly called the "Mother of God". You don't have to take my word on that; Martin Luther defended it more eloquently than I can.
And, yes, it is absolutely true that God the Son created His own mother. There is mystery here, but no contradiction: mothers do not create their children, they cooperate with God in creating children.
An interesting choice of words; irony in action.
You catholics need to think thing out a bit better :-)
It's nutty talk like this that keeps mankind fighting each other over religion.
We'd all be a lot better off if there were more Agnostics in the world and less fanatics.
God's word also says that the dead cannot communicate with the living. Our only link beyond this world is the Holy Spirit, all other spirits are Antichrist, and are forbidden.
You yourself must agree that St. Paul is speaking in hyperbole since, in quoting Isaiah, he makes no exception -- not even for the Sacred Human Nature of Christ. Since he did not make exception for Our Lord's sinless human nature, the statement cannot be taken literally. The reason that St. Paul is quoting Old Testament references here (which of course pre-dated both Christ and His mother) was to stir the consciences of his fellow Jews. He wants to show them that they are no superior to the Gentiles by reminding them of the repeated Old Testament apostacies of the Jewish people.
You really do a disservice to your own religion by playing these games of ripping Scriptural passages from their contexts and offering them up as proof of some separate theological point. This silliness demonstrates intellectual laziness and a simplistic approach to things of God.
Furthermore, sir, your posts suggest that your ignorance of Catholic doctrine and practice is of monumental proportions -- certainly greater than that of even the typical FR Catholic baiter. Before uttering any more outrageous misstatements of our faith, please consult a catechism to ensure that your sure-to-be-erroneous post is at least minimally based on actual Catholic teaching.
Thank you,
Mo1
Address your comment to Attagirl, where it started. - I was only trying to show how absurd the comment was.
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