Posted on 10/06/2001 6:16:58 PM PDT by Dengar01
I just got home from church and I had to post this. I attended Willow Creek church which is north west of Chicago. It is the largest church in the area, it is a non-denominational Christian church, the main auditorium hold 10,000 people and was filled tonight. The topic of the 5:00 service tonight was the interview with a Muslim named Iama Fisal Hammounda, by Senior Pastor Bill Hybels. They will be having three more services between tonight and tomorrow, I pray to God they change their plans for the next services.
I knew this was going to get ugly when the church showed a video on ethnic diversity. I looked around at the church filled to capacity with over 10,000 people and noticed several Muslims.
The inteview started and the man was introduced as a Egyptian who moved here in 1974. He complained that his wife was in Florida and couldn't come home due to the fact that she would be harassed. The goal of Pastor Hybel's interview was to prove that Islam is a peaceful religion, lets just say that he failed, miserabley.
Pastor Hybels did ask some very good questions which surprised me since I thought the Muslim might take the questions as offensive. A few questions statements stood out. The Muslim declared that Islam was peaceful and that the terrorists did not follow Islam, fine I guess. He continued that a "Jihad" had to do with attacking sin he made the poor analogy of declaring a jihad on eating candy.
Continuing Pastor Hybels asked him about martyrs along with the virgins and the streams of wine and the Muslim responded I pray for that to happen. He was truly innappropriate and this is when everything went downhill.
After the Muslims were jumping for joy with the Mr. Hammounda's innappropriate remarks, many people got up and walked out disgusted. I stayed to hear his next remarks which stunned me worse than his previous remarks.
That is when I walked out.
Fortunately for me to write this my sister and her husband stayed while I was complaining to several people at the Service Desk. The final statement which I was lucky enough to miss finished with Mr. Hammounda saying that Christians and Muslims can be friends, only on Muslims terms.
Yes you heard it the slime being spewed by the left is false. I heard it first hand from this man answering innappropriately while joking about a serious issue. I made the statement that this was unnacceptable for a church and should not be tolerated.
If you agree with me you can FReep the church at:
Willow Creek Community Church
67 E. Algonquin Road
South Barrington, IL 60010
(847) 765-5000
Fax: (847) 765-9222
General e-mail: info@willowcreek.org
Don't worry because the church had many people furious, about 200 people walked out including myself and many people were venting their frustration to people who work at the church. I will be calling the church tomorrow to let them know how I feel.
All denominations have dissenting followers but the main philosophy of the church has to be considered as the official position. In this case, the official position is very troubling to say the least.
Its strange how left-wingers like to use this kind of logic, because if they applied it honestly to themselves, then it would be they who are the international purveyors of hate and destruction, instead of the so-called vast right wing conspiracy. They would have to hate themselves.
Allah is not the same God Christians pray to. Using your logic, Krishna is the same as Jehova because he is "god" to Hindus.
Like I said, ask a Mohammedan if they want to see the USA become an Islamic State, they will say yes.
Mohammedans cannot seperate church and state. That is clear.
Let's just say Bill Hybels is a publicity hound and an A$$h0le. (A Right Reverend A$$h0le, if you insist.)
P.S. I'm an evangelical, so I am not cracking on another person's faith, either.
finished with Mr. Hammounda saying that Christians and Muslims can be friends, only on Muslims terms.
Yep, consistent with the age-old process of Arab Islamic treatment of dhimmiized Christians and Jews. "Do as I say or else the JIHAD is for you."
Its fine to teach tolerance for others. But we should in no way tolerate those who seek to destroy us, or suggest such despicable acts of cowardice are the fault of the victim.
One thing I can say is that the Muslims who attended and applauded cannot be too afraid for their 'health'. I wonder how much is 'crying wolf'. Like that Arizona State University kid who claimed he was beaten up but it was later discovered as a hoax.
It's not enough that we open our doors to the swarming rejects from imporverished countries, or to the persecuted and maligned. And that we try to accommodate the profusion of cultures and religions that try to establish themselves as "mainstream". What of the philanthropy and boundless gestures of goodwill we have shown? Have we not done more for our "guests" than could be expected of any host?
Is it not plain for all to see that, for all the amity and courtesy we extend, what we get in return is spiteful harangue. Yes, we are by virture of our generosity, the (SATANIC) root cause of all that is wrong with the world, of poverty, pain, and suffering. How long do we had to endure this ridicule from our "guests"?
The party is OVER. It is time to send the guests home....
Yes it is easy to hate, but it is wrong. God told us to love all people including our enemies.
However, it is not wrong to point out who the enemies of Christians are. The people who knowingly embrace Islam are our enemies. It is also not wrong for Christians to defend themselves from their enemies. We should actively seek to identify any and all terrorist in our country and deport them. God is with us since we follow the only way to the Father, Jesus Christ the son of God.
Allah was the sabean moon god. Mohammed made this god their only god.
I pray you let the Holy Spirit lead the way. There are many faithful churches in the Chicagoland area. Good Bible believing, teaching, God reverencing, set apart folks who desire nothing but to glorify God.
In His Love †
I'm not denying the fact that there are many very patriotic American Muslims who are just as horrified as any other American that mass murder would be justified in their deity's name...
...but for those who hate us to utilize a Christian church (where they normally would not even consider attending) in order to try to slap US in the face is no less than reprehensible!
(Get your smelling salts, Miss M....I think we may actually agree on something here.)
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