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The Importance of Israel
The Forward ^ | 10-5-2001 | editorial

Posted on 10/06/2001 10:02:00 AM PDT by Masada

Disaster doesn't always bring out the best in us.

Sometimes, tragically, it brings out the worst. A case in point: the finger-pointing in the wake of the September 11 terror attacks, seeking to blame the atrocities on America's supposedly misguided support for Israel — and on Jewish Americans who supposedly manipulate the system to tilt our policy the wrong way.

No, it's not a national groundswell. You hear it mainly on the margins, and if past experience is a guide, it will stay there. Still, the variety and persistence of the finger-pointers is startling: left-wing professors in California, right-wing fanatics in Idaho, Arab-American activists in Michigan, smart-alec journalists in New York. There's enough of it to be worrying.

In reply, important voices are being raised from within the Jewish community, declaring that the attacks and the hatred behind them have nothing to do with America's support for Israel. Osama bin Laden and his ilk are motivated, we are reminded, by larger, more global issues: suspicion of modernity, secularism, democracy and the Western civilization that champions them. On the policy plane, his passion is driving American troops off the holy soil of Arabia. Israel isn't on his screen, except perhaps tangentially, as one more example of the West's corrupting influence.

The fact is, things are a bit more complicated than that. Bin Laden and his allies are driven, above all, by an extremist version of fundamentalist Islam. And Islam, as many of those same defenders of Israel have noted countless times, regards the mere existence of a Jewish state in the Middle East as a cardinal theological challenge. Indeed, pessimists in the pro-Israel community have been pointing for decades to the power of Islam's territorial imperative as a reason to dismiss Israel-Arab peacemaking as impossibly naïve. It's hard to see how that reading squares with the notion that the world's most dangerously fanatical Islamist just isn't interested in Israel.

But we needn't search the theology texts to divine bin Laden's motives. He's spelled them out repeatedly in various public statements. He's on a self-declared holy war against "Crusaders and Jews," with a three-fold goal: "liberating" Mecca and the rest of Arabia from American "occupation," "liberating" Al-Aqsa in Jerusalem from Jewish "occupation" and lifting the Western embargo on Iraq. They're always stated in that three-fold form, and usually in that order.

The fact is, Israel is one of the issues, though not the only one, driving bin Laden and his cohorts. It is foolish to deny it; that merely undermines the credibility of Israel's defenders at a time when Israel sorely needs defending. The best defense is always the truth.

And the truth is that America and Israel are allies, not because of some cabal of Jewish lobbyists, but because their two peoples demand it. America's support for Israel is not misguided, but profoundly moral. America and Israel share a deep community of values. They are partners in the democratic enterprise, cities on a hill devoted to something larger than themselves. Both are imperfect, at times painfully so. Both become impatient when their imperfections are pointed out. Still, both are societies striving to represent the better nature of humankind, and for that reason they deserve defending.

If America's defense of her values sometimes puts her on the firing line, then that's the right place to be. That's not a hard case to make. Most Americans, like most Israelis, understand it instinctively.


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When fingers are pointing and some quislings in Washington are attempting to ignore the religious, cultural and democratic ties that bind the destinies of America and Israel once and forever, this is the sort wisdom we can all use.
1 posted on 10/06/2001 10:02:00 AM PDT by Masada
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To: Masada
You hear it mainly on the margins, and if past experience is a guide, it will stay there

This finger-pointing is orchestrated and has a political agenda. We want to split Muslims into moderates and fanatics. They want to split "the infidels" into Christians, Jews, Hindus, etc. There is a bunch of bona-fide idiots, zoological anti-Semites and cowards, but most of the anti-Israel backlash comes from quite specific quarters

2 posted on 10/06/2001 10:16:19 AM PDT by eclectic
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To: Masada
Israel is the apple of God's Eye. If the USA turns its back on Israel it is the end of the USA.
3 posted on 10/06/2001 10:23:14 AM PDT by marbren
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To: eclectic
So true. But I worry all the same. The Jews are so easy to abandon - we have seen it happen before in many little ways.
4 posted on 10/06/2001 10:23:43 AM PDT by Masada
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To: Masada
"And the truth is that America and Israel are allies, not because of some cabal of Jewish lobbyists, but because their two peoples demand it. America's support for Israel is not misguided, but profoundly moral. America and Israel share a deep community of values. They are partners in the democratic enterprise, cities on a hill devoted to something larger than themselves. Both are imperfect, at times painfully so. Both become impatient when their imperfections are pointed out. Still, both are societies striving to represent the better nature of humankind, and for that reason they deserve defending."

The most rational explanation of why the continued existance of Israel is critical.

Critical too ,is the acceptance of Arab and Aryan [Iran] Moslem societies who wish to share in 'the better nature of humankind'......

5 posted on 10/06/2001 10:28:54 AM PDT by prognostigaator
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To: Masada
What values? We give them 10 billion dollars in aid with the promise that they will stop building settlements. Israel said yes, after they recieved the aid they kept on building. Israel agreed to an international agreement not to build settlements but they just go ahead and build anyway. If Israel agrees to stop all settlements and recognizes a Palestinean state. Then if the Arabs keep up their terrorists campaign then to hell with the Arabs. Could you tell me how our country benefits economically from our ties with Israel? Most countries in the world would be our "friends" if we gave them unlimited funds, state of the art military equipment, and an assurance that we would back them militarily in any war. Please don't start with the antisemitic rhetoric. I have many jewish friends. Both sides are to blame but the US needs to examine all positions.
6 posted on 10/06/2001 10:32:07 AM PDT by doc
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To: marbren
I wonder sometimes if Israel is the reason G_d brought about the miracle of America's existence. How else could a small country have defeated the world's greatest power to establish its independence if not to play its part in a Plan of national rebirth?
7 posted on 10/06/2001 10:33:12 AM PDT by Masada
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To: doc
How did I know many of your friends are Jews.
8 posted on 10/06/2001 10:34:33 AM PDT by Masada
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To: Masada
I agree. Also, The reason the Iraq was defeated by the US was because the were stupid enough to send 40 scuds to Israel.
9 posted on 10/06/2001 10:37:10 AM PDT by marbren
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To: Masada
"quislings"

That's a bit strong, don't you think?

10 posted on 10/06/2001 10:41:12 AM PDT by Big Bunyip
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To: Masada; zion_ist; dennisw; Yehuda; veronica; Sabramerican; Lent; American in Israel; angelo
Masada shall not fall again.

Hey did you know there's a word for "ping" in Hebrew?

Zeemzoom! : )

11 posted on 10/06/2001 10:44:14 AM PDT by American Preservative
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To: doc
We give them 10 billion dollars

It is fun to see how this figure grows in your mind. Soon it will be in trillions. Keep your facts straight - the total help is arout 3 billion a year, most of which (1.8 billion) has to be spent on American weapon systems, i.e. put back into the American economy.

12 posted on 10/06/2001 10:45:15 AM PDT by eclectic
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To: doc
Well, I think the Arab world has stated often enough that Israel must cease to exist that we don't really need the exercise you propose to prove it. I've not always liked some of the things that Israel has done, but now I've seen the Muslim way of handling things, it seems to me that the choice of whom to support is clear.
13 posted on 10/06/2001 10:48:20 AM PDT by Anamensis
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To: doc
A segment of "our" country beneits from the tie to Israel. This segment votes Democrat War Party every election. They are centered in Morningside Heights and Beverly Hills. They are very rich. They are Israeli/Americans. They keep the money flowing to the DWP. The Democrat War Party cannot offend this segment of the voting public, or they (DWP) will disappear. In return, the DWP, keeps the money flowing to this segment and they send it to Israel.

I am an European/American, Republican. I think this segment of the population I refer to is made up of excellent citizens, imaginative and productive. IF need be I would bring Israelis, that want to come, to this country and abolish Israel.

14 posted on 10/06/2001 10:49:07 AM PDT by Blake#1
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To: marbren
Saying Israel is the apple of God's eye is the same stuff as being the chosen people. What then are the rest of us except for a bank account?
15 posted on 10/06/2001 10:49:24 AM PDT by Thebaddog
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To: Thebaddog
Funny you mention "bank account." That's the same old filthy slur.
16 posted on 10/06/2001 10:56:22 AM PDT by Masada
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To: Masada
It's still too early to get a real feel for how this will shake out vis-a-vis U.S.-Israeli relations. Israel should not be overly optimistic. From a realpolitik perspective the re-alignment between Russia and the USA, and particularly Putin's eager desire to help the U.S. in the present crisis, redounds to the detriment of Israel.

Sharon must use every ounce of skill to keep the relationship on track, which makes his "Czechoslovakia in 1938" remarks all the more baffling.

17 posted on 10/06/2001 11:04:16 AM PDT by beckett
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To: Masada
"In reply, important voices are being raised from within the Jewish community, declaring that the attacks and the hatred behind them have nothing to do with America's support for Israel. Osama bin Laden and his ilk are motivated, we are reminded, by larger, more global issues: suspicion of modernity, secularism, democracy and the Western civilization that champions them. "

Really?

Let's look at what Osama bin Laden himself says. I will quote from a 1998 interview of Osama bin Laden by Frontline. The original context is here: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/who/interview.html

"We know at least one reason behind the symbolic participation of the Western forces and that is to support the Jewish and Zionist plans for expansion of what is called the Great Israel. Surely, their presence is not out of concern over their interests in the region. ... Their presence has no meaning save one and that is to offer support to the Jews in Palestine who are in need of their Christian brothers to achieve full control over the Arab Peninsula which they intend to make an important part of the so called Greater Israel. ..."

"For over half a century, Muslims in Palestine have been slaughtered and assaulted and robbed of their honor and of their property. Their houses have been blasted, their crops destroyed. "

"They should all unite in the fight against polytheism and they should pool all their resources and their energy to fight the Americans and the Zionists and those with them. "

"The enmity between us and the Jews goes far back in time and is deep rooted. There is no question that war between the two of us is inevitable."

"The leaders in America and in other countries as well have fallen victim to Jewish Zionist blackmail."

"Once again, I have to stress the necessity of focusing on the Americans and the Jews for they represent the spearhead with which the members of our religion have been slaughtered. Any effort directed against America and the Jews yields positive and direct results - Allah willing."

"The fatwah is general (comprehensive) and it includes all those who participate in, or help the Jewish occupiers in killing Muslims. "

" He acted with zeal to make the Americans understand that their government was attacking Muslims in order to safeguard the American-Jewish interests. ... "

"We are certain that we shall - with the grace of Allah - prevail over the Americans and over the Jews, as the Messenger of Allah promised us in an authentic prophetic tradition when He said the Hour of Resurrection shall not come before Muslims fight Jews and before Jews hide behind trees and behind rocks. "

"We are certain - with the grace of Allah - that we shall prevail over the Jews and over those fighting with them."

"We anticipate this to happen to him and to the influential people who stand by him and who have sided with the Jews and the Christians giving them free reign over the land of the two Holy Mosques."

"And, while America blocks the entry of weapons into Islamic countries, it provides the Israelis with a continuous supply of arms allowing them thus to kill and massacre more Muslims. "

"I say to them that they have put themselves at the mercy of a disloyal government, and this is most evident in Clinton's administration ... . We believe that this administration represents Israel inside America. Take the sensitive ministries such as the Ministry of Exterior and the Ministry of Defense and the CIA, you will find that the Jews have the upper hand in them. They make use of America to further their plans for the world, especially the Islamic world. American presence in the Gulf provides support to the Jews and protects their rear. And while millions of Americans are homeless and destitute and live in abject poverty, their government is busy occupying our land and building new settlements and helping Israel build new settlements in the point of departure for our Prophet's midnight journey to the seven heavens. America throws her own sons in the land of the two Holy Mosques for the sake of protecting Jewish interests. ... "

"We say to the Americans as people and to American mothers, if they cherish their lives and if they cherish their sons, they must elect an American patriotic government that caters to their interests not the interests of the Jews. "

Thus, here we have Osama bin Laden himself giving the reasons for his actions. In the interview bin Laden does not complain about "modernity", "democracy", "secularism" and Western civilization. He only complains about Israel and American support for Israel. It is clear that the reason Osama targets American is because of the support the US has given to Israel.

18 posted on 10/06/2001 11:06:32 AM PDT by Marduk
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Don't imply a slur, you weezer. It's a fact where the money is coming from. You've got some chutzpah.
19 posted on 10/06/2001 11:09:23 AM PDT by Thebaddog
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To: marbren
you're kidding..right ?
20 posted on 10/06/2001 11:14:27 AM PDT by looky
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