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To: Rauch byeth, SoothingDave, JHavard, Havoc, pegleg, Steven, Iowegien, The808bass, AguyA
Just as the democrats and the republicans have found their common ground is that they are Americans so too maybe we can realize that we are all believers in Christ as the only way to a relationship with God and from there live our days in unity.

Our side believes it has won the Peter debate with strong undeniable facts and your side believes it has won (I'm not sure why) :) so here is a subject that is dying to be talked about because it is what is going on on these threads and I don't think it has been talked about in detail yet so I'll go first.

This statement is the heart and soul of ECUMENISM.

Though the ecumenical movement is very broad, there are certain unscriptural traits which are present throughout. The ecumenical movement downplays doctrinal purity and refuses to practice biblical separation.

We cannot put aside doctrin for the sake of peace, there is a Devil out there and he is setting up the false church and this is the vehicle he is using to bring it about.

BigMack

5 posted on 10/05/2001 3:48:45 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
there is a Devil out there and he is setting up the false church and this is the vehicle he is using to bring it about.

The Devil already has the false church established and of strength. He's been working at it all around the world for a long time. It comes in many names; but, it will ultimately show it's level of deception when Antichrist is revealed.

7 posted on 10/05/2001 4:01:47 PM PDT by Havoc
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Oh but if we all just love God and love each other and hold hands and sing happy songs and feel so good, what can be wrong with that. Let's just forget about the parts that talk about sin, and blood, and hell. God is all loving and all merciful, he wouldn't send a person who is good to hell just becasue they didn't believe EVERYTHING he said. That wouldn't make him a very nice God:(

Becky

9 posted on 10/05/2001 4:08:07 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Just as the democrats and the republicans have found their common ground is that they are Americans so too maybe we can realize that we are all believers in Christ as the only way to a relationship with God and from there live our days in unity. Our side believes it has won the Peter debate with strong undeniable facts and your side believes it has won (I'm not sure why) :) so here is a subject that is dying to be talked about because it is what is going on on these threads and I don't think it has been talked about in detail yet so I'll go first. This statement is the heart and soul of ECUMENISM. Wow I can`t believe I typed that as you know from all my other posts in 157 that I do not believe that we all as humans are christians. Just as I stated that not all religions lead to a relationship to God but all religions have a way to find God in them and that is truly different.

The statement should read Just as the democrats and the republicans have found their common ground is that they are Americans so too maybe we can realize that all believers in Christ who is the only way to a relationship with God have their salvation as a comonality and from this truth live our days in unity. God calls Christians to unity in,ephesians 4

41As a prisoner for the Lord, then, I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling you have received. 2Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. 3Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. 4There is one body and one Spirit-- just as you were called to one hope when you were called-- 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. 7But to each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it. --------------------------------------------------------- Excerpted from Compton's Interactive Bible NIV Copyright (c) 1994, 1995, 1996 SoftKey Multimedia Inc. All Rights Reserved>blockquote> Sorry about the runaway thought but I am glad it gave you a new idea for discussion.

10 posted on 10/05/2001 4:12:43 PM PDT by Rauch byeth
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Big Mack,
I think there is a place for some aort of ecuminism , that is, agreement on SOME things, such as ,
1. God is the Almighty creator of all things . we will obviously have to agree to disagree about the Trinity .
2. Jesus, the Son of God is our savior and the King of Kings . (Angelo may disagree on this point)
3.He calls us all to repent of our sins and live virtuous lives . (Lots of room to disagree about details here .)
4. We all hope to spend eternity in Heaven with jesus . (lots to disagree about here as to details .)

I f you are talking about that abomination being cooked up by the UN, Ted Turner, and some others, you are right, IMHO to be repelled by the idea . (Look, we CAN agree on SOMETHING )

13 posted on 10/05/2001 4:19:54 PM PDT by dadwags
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