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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Just as the democrats and the republicans have found their common ground is that they are Americans so too maybe we can realize that we are all believers in Christ as the only way to a relationship with God and from there live our days in unity. Our side believes it has won the Peter debate with strong undeniable facts and your side believes it has won (I'm not sure why) :) so here is a subject that is dying to be talked about because it is what is going on on these threads and I don't think it has been talked about in detail yet so I'll go first. This statement is the heart and soul of ECUMENISM. Wow I can`t believe I typed that as you know from all my other posts in 157 that I do not believe that we all as humans are christians. Just as I stated that not all religions lead to a relationship to God but all religions have a way to find God in them and that is truly different.

The statement should read Just as the democrats and the republicans have found their common ground is that they are Americans so too maybe we can realize that all believers in Christ who is the only way to a relationship with God have their salvation as a comonality and from this truth live our days in unity. God calls Christians to unity in,ephesians 4

41As a prisoner for the Lord, then, I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling you have received. 2Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. 3Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. 4There is one body and one Spirit-- just as you were called to one hope when you were called-- 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. 7But to each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it. --------------------------------------------------------- Excerpted from Compton's Interactive Bible NIV Copyright (c) 1994, 1995, 1996 SoftKey Multimedia Inc. All Rights Reserved>blockquote> Sorry about the runaway thought but I am glad it gave you a new idea for discussion.

10 posted on 10/05/2001 4:12:43 PM PDT by Rauch byeth
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To: Rauch byeth
The book of Ephesians was written to christians that believed in Pauls teachings of the Gospel, which was there is only one way to salvation. Ecumenism is a movement that wants everyone who believes in God to all get together no matter what their doctrinal beliefs are. So the verse you quoted from Ephesians does not apply here.

Becky

12 posted on 10/05/2001 4:18:09 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: Rauch byeth
Lest we forget let me repeat the many times quoted verse James 2:19 Thou sayest thou believest in one God, thou doest well, the devils believe also and tremble.

Becky

14 posted on 10/05/2001 4:22:58 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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