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To: ExSoldier
"We need to be putting pressure on Congress to pass a federal law that makes state concealed weapons permits reciprocal between states IAW the 2nd Amendment and more importantly the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the 14th Amendment so that just as our DRIVERS LICENSES are good in all states (the binding precedent) so too, should our gun permits be recognized."

The 2nd amendment, as written by our Founding Fathers is REAL, all else is fantasy.
Text of the Second Amendment
"A well regulated Militia
being necessary to the security of a free State,
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."


How Did the Founders Understand the Second Amendment?

40 posted on 10/08/2001 4:32:36 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Lacking a definitive RULING by the USSC (US Supreme Court) on this specific issue....your point is invalid. Past holdings tend to support your theory (which I too subscribe to--but I'm also a realist, which is not your strong suit) but nothing since 1935 which we technically lost in the US v Miller case. The 2nd Amendment (don't quote it to me...I have it memorized and I teach Honors American Government) is still open to interpretation by the states and the USSC has not yet struck down any of the blatantly unconstitutional gun laws passed in the last 50 years based on YOUR interpretation of the Amendment. I'll say it again: GET REAL and deal with the issue based on the paradigm of the current playing field.

I'll say this: If the next terrorist attack is aborted by a LAWFULLY armed citizen, the paradigm will take a dramatic shift back to the vision of the Founding Fathers.

42 posted on 10/08/2001 5:18:52 PM PDT by ExSoldier
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
The 2nd Amendment IS my CCW!

No state or federal agency can lawfully mitigate that right. They get away with it not because we respect their legitimacy in the matter , but because we fear their power to deprive us of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. They have trumped our right by overwhelming force, trampling on The Constitution as they do it.

Now, the reality is; whether or not on wishes to risk arrest and imprisonment for the sake of Constitutional principle. Most folks would rather not be hauled way in irons. So, maybe we should continue to approach this incrementally. Piece by piece, until we recoup what we have lost.

That's not to say that I won't make discreet arrangements for my defense and the defense of family and country. I won't let pieces of paper stop me from self protection.

59 posted on 10/10/2001 2:34:55 PM PDT by KirkandBurke
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