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To: AndrewC
Comments, explanations?

My comment is that the true test would be to repeat the experiment, but have the pilgrims praying for half the pregnancies to fail. Will the correlation be positive or negative?

The most interesting explanation would be one from the Catholic church. According to the Pope, IVF is immoral. This must be a real dilemma for them.

24 posted on 10/05/2001 1:29:23 PM PDT by Physicist
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To: Physicist
This must be a real dilemma for them.

Perhaps you missed my answer to Nebullis, which is essentially that praying for a good outcome of a bad situation does not equate to supporting the bad situation. However, it would be bad to pray for the demise of a life. Scientists may think that way, but Christians aren't supposed to pray that way.

28 posted on 10/05/2001 2:30:32 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: Physicist
This must be a real dilemma for them.

How so?

IVF is immoral. That does not mean that an omnipotent and merciful God can't bring forth something good from the Ubermensch's mistakes ... including human life, however inhuman is the forcing of some individuals to never know their natural parents or to be confected as part of a for-profit contract.

33 posted on 10/05/2001 3:11:08 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Physicist
My comment is that the true test would be to repeat the experiment, but have the pilgrims praying for half the pregnancies to fail.

Women want to get pregnant. Regular intercourse failed. IVF increased rate of pregnancy. Multiple prayers increased IVF rate of pregnancy.

Women don't want to get pregnant. Condoms and the pill are 99.99% effective. Condoms and the pill replaced with multiple prayers. Pregnancy rate increases 100,000%.

Conclusion, obviously man made creations -- IVF, condoms and the pill -- are more effective than prayer.

However, assuming that the IVF test can be validated via replication, it demonstrates the power of conscious mind/body unit to control existence to its benefit. Of course, we already know that the conscious mind/body unit controls civilization on Earth. Unfortunately, much of the control is in the form of destruction dumped on the people by governments, media, bogus environmentalists, religion, academia and government-colluding big business.

"None of the authors are employed by religious organizations, and we were not asked by any religious groups to conduct this trial, nor did we seek religious advice at any time. "

The increased pregnancy rate is substantial. Kept in the objective/scientific realm where it will be validated via replication opens up the people's awareness that there is a whole area of human conscious control that science has yet to seriously research and create benefits for individuals, society and humanity.

For twenty years the scientific community has turned a "political"-agenda-blind-eye to the numerous validated/replicated remote viewing tests and research. Political agendas and their support structures are poised to collapse.

The most interesting explanation would be one from the Catholic church. According to the Pope, IVF is immoral. This must be a real dilemma for them.

It was neither Satan nor God that caused the increased pregnancies. Interesting explanation? ... Boring rationalization.

39 posted on 10/05/2001 4:18:32 PM PDT by Zon
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