The True Islamic Morals-

www.harunyahya.com ^ | 04.10.2001 | Turan

[Samir]

With its Christian-dominated culture and population, the United States, that defines itself as "a nation under God", is in fact a real friend of the Muslims. In the Qur'an, God draws attention to this fact and informs us that Christians are those who are "most affectionate to those who believe". (Surat al-Ma'ida: 82) --Harun Yahya

[Blade]

The whole point of his article is that if they truly practiced Islam, they wouldn't be terrorist in first place.

There are millions of Islamic fundamentalists who disagree with you. They believe the bin Laden's version of Islam is the only true version of Islam.

How would you characterize a belief system that spawns millions of people willing to cheer the slaughter of 7000 innocent people?

Maybe that point is above your intellectual capability.

Save your feeble personal attacks for someone who cares, fool.

[NoControllingLegalAuthority]

My brother in New York has been to Turkey many times. Most Muslims in Turkey have a completely different approach to Islam. They like Americans. Don't throw the Turks in with the others. They are friendly to the U.S. and let us use their country for air bases.

The people of Turkey are not part of the terrorist problem. Turkey has a secular government and they are squared away.

[azemt]

Excellent post...

[America's Resolve]

Turan, I have to agree with the others. During your reading of the Koran, did you just pass over the parts about inserting hot rods into the unbelievers bodies? The meathooks? Cutting off alternate hands and feet? Cutting off fingers? Boiling water? Boiling oil? Or did you choose to miss them.

The whole point here is that these words DO undeniably exist in the Koran and think what you will, as long as they DO exist, people will go out of their way to misinterpret it.

Actually, that's not right. Terrorists aren't 'misinterpreting' the Koran, they're interpreting it exactly as it reads. And as long as the Koran says things like "We have prepared for the unbeliever whips and chains and blazing fires!" it will be subjected to abuse.

I've never been against any religion in my life, but Islam isn't quite like any other religions. Islam has been on a butchering rampage and has spread like a pestilence over the world in the past 1500 years or so.

I understand that the emporer Arangzeb butchered 10,000 Hindus every day for a year, just because they were kafir - like me. Islam has desecrated 10,000 Indian temples and butchered their Holy men and mocked their Gods.

Islam is ANYTHING but peaceful. Sorry, I'll never buy it.

[sig226]

Just for fun, my friend Nabil refers to the Afghanis as camel jockeys, and his brother Ziad is a Navy RIO. I expect Ziad is pressing full steam for the Indian Ocean, if he's not already there.

[America's Resolve]

Sorry, there's a distinct difference between the Christian atrocities and the Islamic atrocities.

When Christians killed during conversion or the Holy Inquisition for instance, they killed on the orders of a man.

When Islam kills, it's on the orders of their God.

That's why we could outgrow our baser instincts. Islam can't because it's their duty to their GOD to kill.

[patent]

Bump. All these articles proclaiming how peaceful Islam is, and yet they never seem willing to address certain verses headon.

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[Blade]

What is your point?

[The_Republican]

As you say, their are millions who believe in Binladen's version..., so your problem is with them, and not with true Islam. However, your anger and frustation is turning into hate, and you refuse to separate the two. That will cause you to act in a way binladen does and then he will truly win. As that was the whole purpose of his assault in first place.

[Travis McGee]

Most of us who have lived around Muslims know the truth.

Is that supposed to comfort us, or terrify us?

[TKEman]

I'm interested in knowing why no fatwa has been issued against Mr. bin Laden. I understand that most Muslims are peaceful people. However, I must state that Islam is what Muslims living today are. That's the reality. Islam is what Islam "is" today. Actions speak louder than words. We would like to see a fatwa issued against Mr. bin Laden.

[tessalu]

People in the United States can read the Quran and what it says, and there is no need to add another "version" to it.I have read the Quran and I feel that in it Osama binLaden can find the justification for his actions there. Osama can justify his actions just by calling the people who died Infidel, pagan, or kafir, for the Quran calls for their death, all done in the name-of-allah. The "allah" of the quran, is not the God of the Bible, for the God of the Bible tells what sin is and hates it, and he stays away from it, and unforgiven sinners do not go to heaven, and there is NO sin up here. The 10 commandments tells us what sin really is, and sin is defined as "transgression of the law." The Quran seemms to say that sin is okay if it is done for allah, and that fornication will go on in Paradise forever, and that the worst muslim will have at least 70 virgins. The Quran calls murderers "martyrs" and they can go straight to Paradise if they kill in the name of allah. God is the Creator of man, and we agree on that, but we differ when it comes to the cheapness of human life. The God of the Bible loves his creation, and is tender of heart, and knows even when a little bird falls to the ground, and he says that he cares much more for us all. Muslims are taught that they are better than any other person, and that the rest are infidels, pagans, or kafirs and need to be destroyed if they do not repent, and they think that allah likes arabic. Maybe allah does like Arabic, but the God that I know says he is no respector of persons. The character of the true God is defined by the 10 commandments, and if Paradise is full of murderers, haters, fornicators, who on earth would want to go there? The Muslims think that they must die for allah, and Christians know that God gave HIS only son to die for sinners, so that there sins are forgiven and paid for by his blood.The Quran teaches that Jesus never did die, and that it all was a hoax. In Islam, sin is never erradicated, for it just goes on for ever, and they even teach that sinless Jesus will come, and follow Mohammed, live 40 years and then die. But Jesus gave his life to conquer our last enemy and it is death. Jesus died once and for all, and he will never have to die again, and he has a new body right now, and he is immortal. Only God hath immortality. Mohammed lies in his grave, awaiting the coming of Jesus, and the Judgement. The Quran is all based on one simple fact, and that is that Mohammed said that an angel told him what to say, and he has no real proof that he saw an angel or that it was from God. Mohammed makes no mention that Satan (Shaitan) can appear as an angel of light. In Islamic contries, the questioning of Islam is not allowed, and blasphemy or disent carries the penalty of death. Anything that cannot be questioned is not worth believing in, and something is wrong right there.

[Travis McGee]

The whole point of his article is that if they truly practiced Islam, they wouldn't be terrorist in first place.

How do you explain the fact that the terrorists are mainly products of Madrassa schools where they study the Koran 8 to 10 hours a day?

[Lent]

I understand that the emporer Arangzeb butchered 10,000 Hindus every day for a year, just because they were kafir - like me. Islam has desecrated 10,000 Indian temples and butchered their Holy men and mocked their Gods.

Big bump for mentioning the Jihad in India. Massacres, rapes, forced conversions, desecrations and destruction of Hindu Fire Temples, conversion of other temples into mosques. A sordid history of the Jihad. Eastern Christianity and the Hindus (as well as Buddhists which Islam almost single handely wiped out in India) experienced the worst of the Jihad and know all about (or should know) Islam.

[Goetz_von_Berlichingen]

"Please read the true Islam,I am a muslim living in Turkey.and muslims are not bunch of terrorists"

Would it not be more correct to say that Turks are not a bunch of terrorists? Turkey is certainly the most enlightened and tolerant of the Islamic states (now, at least) but your co-religionists elsewhere have brought many innocent people to grief in every quarter of the globe. Evidently you and those who think like you -- which, I believe, is the majority of Moslems in the U.S -- do not belive that the Koran's encouragement of Jihad is to be taken literally. There is a substantial minority of Moslems throughout the world, however, that do. And because of the way they have chosen to conduct this particular version of Jihad, they have left the world no practical choice but to utterly and completely annihilate them.

If and when the nations or the world decide to take such a drastic step, with whom will the peaceful Moslems stand -- with the civilised world, including "infidels", or with their misguided co-religionists?

[eaglebeak]

Touche! I cannot believe the reactions this guy is getting. I want to tell him that just as some Muslims don't follow the true Islam, there are some Americans who pervert the will of most of the American people. This thread is proof of that.

[Aquinasfan]

Can you tell me why you believe that Mohammed was visited by an angel rather than by a demon?

Mormons claim that Joseph Smith was visited by an angel named Moroni who also gave him a revelation.

Why would Joseph Smith be wrong and Mohammed be right? What would we use as a basis to determine which was right, if either?

[Travis McGee]

Don't worry, if Islam is victorious across the world, and all the world is forced to "submit" to "islam" (synonyms in Arabic), then all of the horrible butcheries committed in the name of Allah over the last 1400 years will simply disappear down the memory hole forever.

Islamic history will record that the population of the world eagerly "submitted" to Islam. The dead, decapitated, gang raped burned and blown up will die unrecorded, and not long remembered.

And Moslems will say that is how it should be, for to "surrender" (the other Arabic translation of "islam") means not to ask any uncomfortable questions, but only to "submit" to the teachings of the prophet.