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Rumsfeld: Saudis Worry About Effects
Associated Press ^ | Wednesday, October 03, 2001 | ROBERT BURNS, AP Military Writer

Posted on 10/03/2001 2:34:17 PM PDT by Dog Gone

Rumsfeld: Saudis Worry About Effects

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) -- Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, preparing allies for possible military strikes in Afghanistan, said Saudi officials expressed concern Wednesday that a war on terrorism could create harmful ``secondary effects'' in the Muslim world.

Rumsfeld met in the Saudi capital with King Fahd and Crown Prince Abdullah, then dined at the palace of Prince Sultan, the kingdom's minister of defense. It was the first stop on a mission to boost support from Arab and Central Asia nations with bases that could be vital for military action.

While the Saudis offered praise for President Bush's handling of the crisis created by the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, they also had concerns, Rumsfeld told reporters traveling with him.

``We had a very substantive and interesting and thoughtful discussion about the nature of the problem and the complexities of the problem, and the importance of dealing with it in a way that recognizes secondary effects that could occur,'' the Pentagon chief said.

Rumsfeld said he stressed to his Saudi hosts that Bush is sensitive to concerns by Arab nations. He emphasized recent U.S. aid to Muslim nations such as Bosnia and Afghanistan.

``We recognize that there are elements in the world -- terrorists and terrorist networks -- that make an active effort to turn that portion of the globe against the West and the United States,'' he said.

Saudi officials have said publicly that American troops must not use bases inside Saudi Arabia to launch attacks on other countries in the region, including Afghanistan.

Asked whether he had come to Riyadh to iron out such issues, Rumsfeld indicated he saw no insurmountable problems.

``To the extent that nations are well-knitted together at the top ... those kinds of things get worked out,'' he said. ``The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, as the keeper of the holy places in their religion, has a special responsibility, and we recognize that and are comfortable with it.''

The United States has fighter aircraft and other military planes based permanently in Saudi Arabia. Two aircraft carriers already are in the region, and two more on the way.

In Washington, the Pentagon called an additional 67 Marine Corps reservists to active duty Wednesday. That brings the total National Guard and Reserve call-ups to 22,333 from 44 states, the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico.

Bush said he sent Rumsfeld to Saudi Arabia, Oman, Egypt, and Uzbekistan because he wants leaders to see U.S. resolve face-to-face.

``People need to be able to look us in the eye and know that when we say that we're in this for the long run, that we're going to find terrorists and bring them to justice, we mean it,'' Bush said.

Offering assurances to Arab states worried about instability, Bush added: ``America is resolved to rout out terrorism, to make sure that legitimate governments can survive.''

Rumsfeld also undertook his Middle East tour to squeeze friendly governments for timely intelligence on the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden.

In an interview on the flight from Washington to Riyadh, Rumsfeld would speak only in the broadest terms about preparations for military action against either bin Laden's al-Qaida terrorist network or the Taliban government that has been harboring him in Afghanistan.

He said the key was finding ``actionable intelligence'' -- information to help find and arrest or eliminate bin Laden -- not assembling an armada of warships and fleets of bombers.

Asked about a report that infantry from the Army's Tenth Mountain Division was being deployed to the region near Afghanistan, Rumsfeld's chief spokeswoman, Victoria Clarke, said several units of the division were on a heightened state of alert but had not yet deployed.

The Washington Post said the Tenth Mountain's soldiers would provide security for other U.S. forces in Uzbekistan and be on standby as a quick reaction force in support of U.S. special operations forces there.

On Thursday Rumsfeld was headed for Oman and Egypt for meetings with officials there. On Friday he was to visit Uzbekistan, a former Soviet state that he indicated could be a key source of intelligence on al-Qaida.

``We want them to cooperate by giving us intelligence,'' he said. ``The countries on the periphery of Afghanistan in this case can have a lot more information than countries that are not on the periphery. They see the flow of people back and forth across those boarders.''

Rumsfeld stressed the importance of timely intelligence in winning the war on terrorism.

``It's not going to be a cruise missile or a bomber that's going to be the determining factor,'' he said. ``It's going to be a scrap of information from some person in some country that is being oppressed by a dictatorial regime ... that will enable us to pull this network up by its roots and end it.''



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abdullah; kingfahd; rumsfeld; saudiarabia
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1 posted on 10/03/2001 2:34:17 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Love these "friends" of ours. When Saddam was breathing down their necks, we acted, regardless of the "effects." How much "foreign aid" did we send them last year, by the way?
2 posted on 10/03/2001 2:39:27 PM PDT by MizSterious
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To: Dog Gone
Uh, like, duuuuuhhhhh! When you fund these Wahabis don't come crying to us when it bites you in the ass that you have created hundreds of radical "schools" that teach little else but hate. You'd think they could fund schools for geology and chemical engineering, but noooooo. Five minutes after the oil is gone these numbskulls are going to be back to herding camels.
3 posted on 10/03/2001 2:40:05 PM PDT by eno_
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To: Dog Gone
What do you make of this Dog??
4 posted on 10/03/2001 2:40:49 PM PDT by Dog
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To: DEBKAfile believers
Rumsfeld met in the Saudi capital with King Fahd and Crown Prince Abdullah, then dined at the palace of Prince Sultan, the kingdom's minister of defense.

That would be the same King Fahd who Debka assured us had fled the country.

5 posted on 10/03/2001 2:40:55 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Isnt the King in Europe?? With the whole Royal family.
6 posted on 10/03/2001 2:42:26 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Dog Gone
I am of the opinion that it is time for the U.S. to lay our cards on the table. If the Saudi's do not want to help us, perhaps we should pull our troops out and quit giving them military assistance. Same goes for Egypt. I doubt that this would be a development that the Saudi's would welcome. It is my understanding that their regime is despised by the same terrorist that the U.S. is fighting and would fall without our help. In addition, the US should demand that the Saudi's take steps to ensure that radical islam is not eminating from Saudi Arabia. I am tired of them trying to tell us how the world works, time for them to listen for a while.
7 posted on 10/03/2001 2:42:58 PM PDT by The Vast Right Wing
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To: Dog
It's hard to know substantively what happened here today. I think it's fair to say that the Saudis are scared to death that Osama is attempting to trigger an Islamic Revolution which would sweep the entire Middle East, and would result in their overthrow.

The Saudis have to try to figure out how to help us without making it worse. They really have a problem, and one that isn't very well appreciated here.

I suspect Rumsfeld would be willing to get private assurances from the Saudis that we can do whatever we want, and a very different public pronouncement. That won't satisfy many here, but it's probably the wisest thing to do.

8 posted on 10/03/2001 2:45:58 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog
Isnt the King in Europe?? With the whole Royal family.

No, that's what that BS website Debkafile started. The NY Post even quoted them as a source.

WAY too many people believe that site, but it's been proven wrong here again.

9 posted on 10/03/2001 2:48:38 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Oh Binny! Omar! You can come out now! Pick up the phone, call Mommy. The Saudis are worried, everything is so complicated, there is so much to work out. So many countries to visit. Don't worry, any attack is a long, long, way off, if it ever even happens. You were right all along. Allah has heap big mojo. It's safe for you to come out to play and plot. XOXO
10 posted on 10/03/2001 2:49:38 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Dog Gone
Fact is, when this thing really gets going, the Saudi´s days of royalty are over. I would bet the farm the plan has already been laid out. It will be one of the first things to occur, my guess.
12 posted on 10/03/2001 2:53:59 PM PDT by riri
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To: riri
When are we going to stop kissing Arab butt and defend America? When?
13 posted on 10/03/2001 2:56:13 PM PDT by tomahawk
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To: Dog Gone
Saudis Worry About Effects

We are neither respected nor feared in the Muslim world.

14 posted on 10/03/2001 2:56:18 PM PDT by WalterSkinner
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To: riri
Well, you may be right, but that would mean that bin Laden would win. Rumsfeld is trying to prevent that, and it's going to be difficult.
15 posted on 10/03/2001 2:59:28 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Thank you for some rational analysis. I was getting frustrated by all the new political/military "experts" posting here bitching about the apparent lack of response. People need to realize the show is being run by true experts now. Experts that recognize all the factors at play here in bringing about real and lasting results in this 3 week old war. The outcome is certain. We control the timeline. Folks need to make themselves comfortable, and watch some professionals at work.
16 posted on 10/03/2001 3:00:45 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Angus_Day
Any idiot with half a brain would know better than to engage in the kind of operations we have planned under a full moon. In about ten days it will be dark enough to do so special operations and air strikes without sacrificing caualties. It makes me sick that folks want to place our boys on the line in the name of speed. We will unleash our fury, but folks have to be patient. Chill out and quit belly achin'.
17 posted on 10/03/2001 3:04:36 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: WalterSkinner; tomahawk
We are neither respected nor feared in the Muslim world.

Blah, blah, blah from the Buchanan like rhetoric crowd. Why don't you guys sit down and let the professionals do thier job.

Of course by now with your alls rehtoric, Kabul(which was already in the stone age) would be "more" in the stone age with a nuke over it.

Yep emotionalism gets you real far. Just ask Neville Chamberlain(emotionalism of the peceniks) and Hitler & Stalin & Mao & Bin Laden(emotionalism of totaltarian force will bring about a better world) about their places in history.

18 posted on 10/03/2001 3:05:18 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Rokke
All the talk about showing the Saudi's the "bin Laden proof" is bullpucky. Rumsfeld is there to talk about Iraq, Syria, and Iran. Remind them that they have even more to lose than we do if the "Fundamentalists" (I believe that's what they're called) end up controlling the entire region.

bin Laden is easy. Its what comes next that worries the boyos in Riyadh.

19 posted on 10/03/2001 3:14:10 PM PDT by Guillam
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