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1 posted on 10/02/2001 6:22:46 AM PDT by Liz
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2 posted on 10/02/2001 6:24:51 AM PDT by Liz
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Although I hate the NY Times---and Hersh is hardly a "reliable source"---this is likely right on. I have a feeling that in the effort to "demilitarize" after the Cold War and Gulf War, Bush I but especially Clinton de-funded the intel agencies DRAMATICALLY.

Oddly, it is like bank deregulation: you can deregulate banks more if you increase the oversight and inspecitions at an equal pace. You can reduce your military, but you must offset that with increases in intel, snoops, and special ops.

3 posted on 10/02/2001 6:32:36 AM PDT by LS
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Another article that can't see the forest for the trees.

The reason that terrorist are free to live among us is because we worship at the alter of diversity and multiculturalism.

The threat was clearly visible to everyone but no one wanted to be branded a racist or a bigot by pointing out behavior of Arab and Muslims in America.

Instead of following their instincts, the cult of political correctness has blinded everyone to the threat of Arab and Muslims. Instead, Americans are taught to question their own biases of why they would suspect Arabs and Muslims in the first place. Everyone is now too afraid of being called a racist to report suspicious people and behavior.

Likewise, our intelligence agencies are hog-tied by charges of racial profiling.

What would have happened to an agent who questioned the large influx of Arabs and Muslims coming into the United States? What would have happened to an agent that suggested that Arabs and Muslims might pose a threat to national security? Would he have been promoted for his foresight or demoted for his racist judgements?

As long as we are ruled by political correctness instead of reason and prudence, we will be vulnerable to any foreign attack.

9 posted on 10/02/2001 6:59:28 AM PDT by SocialMeltdown
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Before you bash the CIA too hard, remember that unlike other government agencies they don't have a huge PR department promoting everything they do. The CIA has stopped many terrorist attacks, ones that never happened and that we will never know about.
21 posted on 10/02/2001 7:51:58 AM PDT by alegremente
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PUT THE BLAME WHERE IT SHOULD BE, THE CLINTONS! We are starting to see just what they did to the United States but who will see it. We the true americans, not the Clintonites. He -- they sold this country out for the dollars they put in their pockets. NEW YORKERS, Blame you SENATOR Clinton for the ruble in a pile in your City. She is a moderm day Jezebel.
23 posted on 10/02/2001 7:57:35 AM PDT by gulfcoast6
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What most Americans don't understand is that from its beginnings the CIA was a leftist, globalist organization. It first only took the blueblood members of the East Coast elite, and its corporate outlook was shaped by these liberal sons and daughters of America's early financial elite class. From day one, they sought out to remake the world in their liberal image, aided by the iron fist tucked away in the kid gloves.

There is absolutely nothing worthwhile that this organization does, and certainly nothing worth 30 billion dollars a year. Reform is out of the question, as it is a closed organization. It should be shuttered and something new should be put in its place. Something much smaller, less expensive, and less anti-American.

39 posted on 10/02/2001 10:33:26 AM PDT by Zviadist
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Howcome no mention of the failure of the FAA in establishing security at the airports. Their failure is at the source of the problem. No one even seems to notice. Is it because the Chair of the FAA is a Clinton holdover with the usual liberal credentials? Regards.
46 posted on 10/02/2001 11:29:52 AM PDT by The Irishman
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I know I should be more careful with the verb “blow” when discussing the Klingons, but it BLOWS ME AWAY (sorry, I really should NEVER use that phrase in connection with the Clintoons!) that former first b**ch, Hitlery, has the balls (which I suspect she DOES!) to say ANYTHING during this time inasmuch it was her fellow criminal, Bill, who laid the groundwork for this outrage.

CNN’s anorexia poster girl Judy Woodruff interviewed Tom Clancy on the evening of 9/11?

Tom brought up the subject of the CLINTON decimation of US HUMAN INTELLIGENCE capabilities – that going all the way back to Sun Tsu, SPIES are a necessary part of the information gathering process. He mentioned that if we’d had a few spies and spooks out there in this increasingly dangerous world, we MIGHT have gotten one of them close to the perpetrator and been able to interdict the MURDER of perhaps 15,000 Americans in the incredible tragedy we witnessed this morning.

I think it’s safe to say that Clancy knows a bit about the subjects on which he writes.

Tom then tagged CNN by name as one of the news agencies which greeted Clinton’s decimation of the intelligence community with approval, continuing to say that they COULD have spoken out TO OPPOSE HIM but failed to do so. Tom’s rather clear implication was that CNN played a role in today’s catastrophe.

Judy VISIBLY RECOILED – and quickly concluded the interview after babbling something about journalists never taking positions on such matters. Her expression made it clear that she was NOT happy with Tom.

Clancy was RIGHT ON THE MARK and until we DO beef up those assets, it’s gonna happen again – and probably sooner than later.

And do you suppose there is some sinister significance to the fact that this happened on 9-11 (911!)? Are these people THAT sick? Don’t bother responding as that was a rhetorical question.

Let’s all pray – and shed a tear or two -- for the lost firefighters, police officers, innocent citizens and their families. Until this is behind us, we must put aside as many of our partisan differences as our principles will allow.

And we must also pray that our precious Constitution does not become one of the first victims of this SICKENING and senseless act.

47 posted on 10/02/2001 11:33:06 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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The "WHAT WENT WRONG" question that no one seems to answer !

It was reported within a few days of the Sept 11th attacks that the CIA
informed the INS that Mohammed Atta had entered the U.S.

The INS stated there was nothing they could do since atta had already entered the country.
They then promptly notified the FBI that Atta was in the U.S... This was TWO WEEKS prior to Sept 11th.

My "WHAT WENT WRONG" question is this:
How did he manage to buy an airline ticket using his real name, Mohammed Atta, without setting off any warnings.
Articles right after the 11th show that he used his own name to purchase tickets TO Portland, Maine and then to Boston,
from where he bought still a third ticket, using his own name a third time, to then board the fatal flight.

How in the hell did this get by the FBI who had sought him out for TWO WEEKS prior to Sept 11th ?

57 posted on 10/15/2001 3:28:47 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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