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Russia rejects Georgian mediation offer (Chechens beg Georgia for help as Russians go on killing)
AFP via Yahoo! News ^
| Monday October 1, 8:27 PM
| AFP
Posted on 10/01/2001 9:12:00 AM PDT by Pericles
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Shevardnadze's offer, issued Sunday in response to a call from the Chechen side Scum tends to clump together.
Yastrzhembsky noted caustically that Russia "would appreciate Georgian efforts contributing to the world campaign against international terrorism, in particular ... by taking measures to bar Chechen terrorists and mercenaries on its territory." I hope you like your winter without gas or electricity, Shevy.
Over the weekend, on the eve of the war's second anniversary, Russian troops in Chechnya stepped up their activities and nearly 30 people, mostly rebels, died in a 24-hour period, according to Russian sources. No wonder the Chechens are squealing.
It was also seen as a successful propaganda ploy, linking the Chechen rebels with "international terrorists" at a time when the world is preoccupied with the US-led campaign to track down Osama bin Laden, the Saudi dissident charged with masterminding the attacks on US cities. Maybe because one of the 9/11 terrorists was a Chechen fighter? Race to find the final proof-- The clues that point to bin Laden--War on terrorism - Observer special: "Ahmed al-Ghamdi, one of those who flew the United Airlines plane into the south tower, had fought in Chechnya, as had Nawaq al-Hamzi, one of those who crashed into the Pentagon."
However, Russian public opinion has been turning slowly but steadily against the war Based on whose opinion polls? Those of George Soros?
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posted on
10/01/2001 9:12:00 AM PDT
by
Pericles
To: Pericles
When Eduard Shevardnadze speaks, we should be listening. He was a former Soviet foreign minister (under Gorbachev, I believe) and had a reputation for his pro-Western outlook. He's also unique because he actually led a military effort to save his government about ten years ago (as in, strapped on his sidearm, picked up an AK-47, and held off a determined assault by rebels in the Georgian capital).
To: Pericles
My math was off, two of the 9/11 terrorists fought in Chechnya not just one.
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posted on
10/01/2001 9:18:37 AM PDT
by
Pericles
To: Pericles
If the Russians kille thousands of the rebels, I could careless. I'm just waiting on India to take care of business. and we, the US, better not say a word.
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posted on
10/01/2001 9:19:34 AM PDT
by
madison46
To: madison46
Bump at ya. I'm with the Russians. The days of negotiation and mercy are over. Eliminate every terrorist. Period. End of conversation.
To: Alberta's Child
Eduard Shevardnadze is a putz. A pro-western putz to be sure but a putz nonetheless.
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posted on
10/01/2001 9:23:06 AM PDT
by
Pericles
To: madison46
I'm with ya. Can you believe it? I, sometimes, support the Russians!! :^)
To: freedom_from_socialism,nuke'em Glowing
I wonder how we would feel with Iran or Afghanistan on our border or threatening to take over Mexico with violence and spouting the extremist Islamic BS? Time to help the Russians and the Indians. I hope we are giving the Russians all the satallite help that we can.
Go Russia !!!!!!!!!!!
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posted on
10/01/2001 9:30:13 AM PDT
by
madison46
To: Pericles
Screw 'em. The Chechens are Muslims, and were dancing in the street when the WTC was hit. Let's send the Russians some napalm.
To: madison46
Islamic terrorists who blow up entire apartment buildings full of innocents in Moskow?
I will imitate an airline stewardesses and say:
BUH-BYE!!!
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To: zviadist
bump to your attention.
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posted on
10/01/2001 9:35:46 AM PDT
by
malakhi
To: white trash redneck
The Chechens DID hit the Pentagon and the WTC. Read my link.
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posted on
10/01/2001 9:36:48 AM PDT
by
Pericles
To: Pericles
Are the Chechen's muslim?
To: Pericles
Chechnya uprisings were due PRIMARILY to Muslim radicals, many of whom reside in the same terror networks we're trying to take down.
Russia is in their rights on this one. I expect them to obliterate their nemesis in this case and support them doing such.
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posted on
10/01/2001 9:38:35 AM PDT
by
Solson
To: Solson
Duh! I should have read further!
For the first time in my life I'm actually hoping Russia totally annihilates someone they're fighting.
To: madison46
I wouldn't count on us not saying anything about Kashmir. The problem with that situation is that two of the three parties involved have nuclear weapons. This could rapidly widen the war we're involved in. Pakistan is in danger of falling apart. Their economy is in the tank. More than likely, they'll have 20% of the people out on the streets once the heavy bombing starts. In the chaos, we could see India somehow becoming involved. Not good.
The Chechen war is different in that regard. The Chechens are really an internal problem, since their territory has always been inside Russia. No one in the west really cared about them before all this mess, and now so even less. They would be well advised to take what the Russians offer them....
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posted on
10/01/2001 9:43:23 AM PDT
by
TKEman
To: Pericles
Bin Laden hurt the Muslim world more than helped it. Russia will finish the fundamental Islamic forces in the former Turkish Soviet Republics, the US will undermind the Talibans, the Chinese will subjugate and displace the Muslims in Siangking region, and Israel will destroy the Palestinians. If the Muslim world attacks the US again, the US should let the Yugoslavians retake Kosovo and Bosnia, the Phillipines ruthlessly crush the Moros, and India finish Pakistan.
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posted on
10/01/2001 9:44:28 AM PDT
by
Fee
To: Pericles
The Russians are desperate to end the war in Chechnya because they are getting beat. The ex-KGB thug's lame attempt to demonstrate linkage between Russian atrocities in Chechnya and America's tragedy will prove to be a fatal mistake for Moscow.
Literally.
Georgia supports the democratically elected government of president Aslan Maskhadov as does the United States. Russian genocide in Chechnya cannot be permitted to continue unabated simply because Islamic entente forces have stunned America.
Yet we see in America a comprehensive ignorance about this part of the world that is manifested in sudden cries to support Russia. Moscow is suddenly a friend of America?
This same ignorance also shows itself in the daily screams for the US to attack Afghanistan. Got news for you pal -- the US will not be attacking anybody anytime soon.
Although American forces are now prepared to launch -- there is little desire to crush Afghanistan if the price to do so is Chicago and Houston being nuked by "Allah's suitcase."
Amazingly, it is the enemy that now has the nuclear deterrent. US forces are frozen...
The chilling understanding that the enemy's next target will probably be a large US college campus also gives America pause for thought. Security at these institutions is non-existent -- a half kiloton blast at Chapel Hill, Austin, or Tuscaloosa would not only kill ten thousand college students, but would traumatize an entire generation.
Already tens of thousands of American college kids suffering new forms of stress related to the 911 attacks. Meanwhile their 20 and 21 year old enemy counterparts prepare for war with America by carrying a gun -- and using it.
Is this really the time for America to turn her back on Chechen freedom fighters that worship the United States? With the globe soon to explode in the Third World War, perhaps it best to have these fighters remain loyal to the US.
Washington needs to examine this issue closely before the snows fall in the Caucusus. Time grows short for all mankind.
The forces of freedom on the move. Europe trembles.
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posted on
10/01/2001 9:49:54 AM PDT
by
Fusion
To: Fee
As communism was rolled back by a determined president, so will radical Islam be squashed by many determined presidents of many countries.
The IRON CURTAIN of tyranny, fostered by state politics or promoted by state religion will be dwelt the same fate.
buh-bye
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