[Conservative til I die]

Nor did he say, you are Peter, the Pope of the Catholic Church, and on this institution I will build my Church.:-)

No, he just said he was the rock upon which the Church would be built. "Pope" means "Father" and "Catholic" means "Universal." These words are just descriptions. The fact that Jesus doesn't use those exact words is immaterial. He also never used the word Trinity.

[JHavard]

No, he just said he was the rock upon which the Church would be built.

Do you think Peter knew what tremendous responsibilities Christ had put on him?

As far as that goes, do you think any of the other disciples knew that Christ had given him this great task and position?

[JHavard]

No, he just said he was the rock upon which the Church would be built.

Was it that the one who claimed him first got him as their founder? Even if he knew nothing about them?

That Church that Peter was part of the foundation as were the rest of the apostles, went out all over the world, as the planting of a seed, and now it is being harvested in abundance.

[OLD REGGIE]

" No, he just said he was the rock upon which the Church would be built. "Pope" means "Father" and "Catholic" means "Universal." These words are just descriptions. The fact that Jesus doesn't use those exact words is immaterial. He also never used the word Trinity.

catholic means "universal". Catholic means a particular Church. Big difference.

"Pope" means "Father"!!!!!!

MatT. 23:

9 And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven.

10 Neither be called masters, for you have one master, the Christ.

O.k. Have it your way.