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To: all Catholics:Soothing Dave
In the link that you sugested we go to to find an impartial story on "Peter's Tomb" they make the following comment.

Saint John's Gospel contained a passage in which Christ prophesied Peter's death: When you are old, then you will stretch out your hands and another will bind you and take you where you do not want to go.[10] The phrase "to stretch out one's hands" is found in literature of the time referring to crucifixion.[11] Certainly the Christian church at Rome claimed Peter as a martyr and founder of along with Paul as early as the end of the first century AD. And another Roman tradition which we can trace back to the third century AD added the detail that Peter asked his persecutors to turn his cross upside down, because he was unworthy to die in the same manner as Jesus.

This was not the first time I have heard this claim, that was based on John saying that Peter was to be crucified up side down. Let's read what it does say.

Jn 21:18 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not.
19. This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me.

If you read what this says, and not what you wish it said, you will see that it tells us that Peter is going to die of old age, not martyrdom.

"another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not."

(Paraphrase)When you are young, you get up, you get dressed and go where you please, but when you grow old, others have to dress you, and take you where they are going, not where you want to go.

If they had read the first part of the scripture they would have known this.

This is just one more fable foisted on a gulable public.

182 posted on 10/01/2001 10:05:54 PM PDT by JHavard
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To: JHavard
You can crucify a man just be tying him to the cross with rope. Its the hanging there that kills, not the way the person is fastened.
185 posted on 10/01/2001 10:50:44 PM PDT by RobbyS
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