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1 posted on 09/29/2001 4:58:52 PM PDT by Pokey78
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2 posted on 09/29/2001 4:59:44 PM PDT by Pokey78
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Andy's taking a breather from his real interest--gay activism--to suck up to the Clinton critics. Having charmed a few more, he'll be back to sign them up as allies in the gay-lesbian wars.
3 posted on 09/29/2001 5:03:24 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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BUMP
4 posted on 09/29/2001 5:07:07 PM PDT by greyfoxx39
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If we stand back ... take a deep breathe ....and absorb how the FBI, CIA, and other policing authorities moved with stealth tactics, and with a script that is/was in hard copy and immediatley avaiable, to track all this suspects down, it suggests these same authorities, who are being hammered by the media for "Not Doing Their Jobs" ... makes one strongly suspect that these "Cells" have been known about for years.

Which also makes one ask "Who up the ladder" in the Clinton administration ..... shuttled these same agencies off to Buffalo, silence them, and stop them from formally investigating the plot ... and activities ... as now we know they had intended to activate.

Silence is golden ....but at the cost of 6,000 people is not a golden way to leave natural life.

9 posted on 09/29/2001 5:13:32 PM PDT by GoldnGate
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I commend Sullivan for his observations, but I'll take this one step further.

If the United States does not hold Bill Clinton, along with any other public officials, responsible for their actions and negligence in exposing the U.S. public to this kind of attack, then ANY military response by the Bush administration will be both inconsequential and inadequate.

If we as a nation do not have the moral courage to try our own public officials for treason, have the guilty ones executed, then dig them up a week later and "execute" them again just to set an ezample, then we may as well turn on CNN, break out the popcorn, and wait for the next catastrophic assault.

10 posted on 09/29/2001 5:18:03 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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Wow! What a thorough summary.
11 posted on 09/29/2001 5:22:13 PM PDT by maica
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James Zogby should be watched.
13 posted on 09/29/2001 5:28:54 PM PDT by Rustynailww
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Good job, Andrew.

And excellent writing.

14 posted on 09/29/2001 5:30:10 PM PDT by Storm Orphan
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Great article, thanks for posting it. It really frosts some people that Andrew Sullivan is one of the best conservative writers today.
21 posted on 09/29/2001 5:52:32 PM PDT by SurferDoc
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While the terrorists and their sponsors were plotting to hijack airliners and crash them into Manhattan skyscrapers and the Pentagon, senior CIA officials were compelling analysts and operations officers to attend sensitivity-training classes and sew diversity quilts. That is a fact.

A current CIA manager, who requested anonymity, tells Insight that intelligence professionals are forced to attend sensitivity-training classes and do role-playing skits to conform to politically correct social themes. Another CIA official adds, “The management wasted countless thousands of hours by making all of us sit through workshops to make politically correct diversity quilts.” Pieces of fabric were distributed to CIA employees on which they were instructed to sew, draw or glue art, photographs and slogans reflecting “diversity” themes dictated during mandatory sensitivity seminars. “Can you imagine being a manager and having your staff say, ‘Sorry, I need to take off an hour to work on my diversity quilt?’ It just scalds me.” He estimates that the quilting workshops and seminars cost the CIA more than 20,000 hours of employee time. The diversity quilts are on display inside CIA headquarters.

22 posted on 09/29/2001 5:54:46 PM PDT by kcvl
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I see nothing in hear about Ronald Reagan. As much as I liked him as a president, he did nothing to retaliate against the terrorists in San Salvador who killed 4 Marines in May of 1985. In 1993 (as per "60 Minutes" broadcast 5/21/95) the man responsible for planning these attacks was living in San Francisco. I wonder what he did for Clinton to get a visa? Is this terrorist still living here?

Semper Fi Marines!
24 posted on 09/29/2001 5:57:37 PM PDT by Robert Lomax
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The Blood On Bill Clintons Hands
29 posted on 09/29/2001 6:07:06 PM PDT by jmp702
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But the further we get away from the Clinton years, the more damning they seem.

This is what separates history from journalism. Clinton attempted to build a legacy via journalism - i.e. have the right photo ops and have Maureen Dowd write glowing columns about you. History however is concerned with the broad sweep of events and history is set by character.

Why should anyone be surprised that Clinton was unprincipled and undisciplined? We all said it in 1992 and again in 1996 - but we were shouted down by the journalists who proclaimed a new era where the character of public officials didn't matter. We declared a New Economy. We declared History to be over.

I can't take any joy in seeing Clinton's true legacy unfold. I can only hope we all learn something from it - if we survive it.

30 posted on 09/29/2001 6:11:03 PM PDT by garbanzo
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Sullivan misidentifies Deutch--he was Director of the CIA for part of the Clinton years, but never Secretary of Defense.

I read somewhere that in the late 1970s, at the time of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, the US embassy in Kabul had no one on its staff who was fluent in Russian. That would be another example of the cluelessness with which our government has treated that part of the world.

37 posted on 09/29/2001 6:31:46 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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..... President George H W Bush, who balked at removing Saddam Hussein from power at the end of the Gulf war .....

In fairness to then President Bush, it should be remembered that there was no mandate granted him other than to expel the Iraqis from Kuwait which, in only 100 hrs -- and while Powell, the little-corporal in the general costume, watched -- United States Army General Swartzkopf ably did.

And the US never had to figure what to do with Soddom -- and with Iraq -- and, around the Gulf, ever since, both have been not much more than [Albiet muttering, mumbling, posturing and palace-building] laughing stock.

39 posted on 09/29/2001 6:34:24 PM PDT by Brian Allen
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The "peace-making" in the Middle East and Ireland merely intensified the conflicts

Sullivan really capsulizes things so well.

Clinton looks worse and worse as time goes on. Narcisstic , indeed.

43 posted on 09/29/2001 6:37:56 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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BRAVO to Sullivan for speaking out about Clinton's 'soft on terrorism' failure to protect Americans!

Will Americans ever get angry that he was more interested in internal affairs with interns than the threats to our national security!

Character does & did matter!

44 posted on 09/29/2001 6:41:04 PM PDT by JulieRNR21
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The most important idea, that really will NEVER be discussed, is that politicians are RARELY held responsible for their criminal ignorance. This is the natural result of gigantic government, and the left wants more?

I just hate the left, so full of frigging IDIOTS like Leaky Leahy.

45 posted on 09/29/2001 6:45:44 PM PDT by Benrand
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Pay now, or pay later. This adage holds true again.
46 posted on 09/29/2001 6:45:54 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth
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Oooh! Very nice article!

One the comments that interested me was the revelation that Reuel Marc Gerecht wrote, "Know Thine Enemy: A Spy's Journey into Revolutionary Iran." I read the book a few weeks ago. And it is good. I'm definitely going to check out his article in the "Atlantic Monthly."

53 posted on 09/29/2001 6:56:55 PM PDT by Heuristic Hiker
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