In New War on Terrorism, Words Are Weapons, Too (Defending bill maher)

NY TIMES ^ | 9-29-01 | by celestine Bohlen

[quimby]

Some cry censorship when conservatives disagree with the left. Its interesting how the author concludes this leftist drivel with a statement defending the terrorists as Not Cowardly (Thusly defending their hero maher).

It would seem, free discussion of ideas does not inclide opinions of conservatives.

What more proof do we need that our efforts are being felt and our opinions heard?

Thanks to all freepers for making our ideas count. Keep it up. Contact the network and the advertiser.

Update #2 -Politically Incorrect Advertisers Contact List

BeSilentAndBeHeard.com/

[NittanyLion]

Among linguists on the sidelines of such battles, there is little debate that the word "coward" is not applicable to the terrorists who piloted the four planes on Sept. 11. According to Webster's New World College Dictionary, a coward is "a person who lacks courage, especially one who is shamefully unable to control fear and so shrinks from danger or trouble."

How about an alternate definition: "A coward is a person who would forgo their goals rather than risk something they value." Since these cowards believe death is the ultimate honor, they risked nothing they value.

[W is for WINNER]

Let me see....in the NY Times own words when they don't like the dissent.. How divisive...
What a hater....
Extremism on display...

This list could go on and on. I guess it all depends on whose doing the dissenting, what the subject is, and what the words are.

NYTimes = Censor Center

[gjenkins]

I do not like Maher. We are at war ... I think. Our foe would be stupid to attack us at our strength and by our rules. They are disciplined and determined. I do not think they are cowards, and I don't think calling them cowards helps our forces at all. I guess it helps us civilians to feel brave and to support further action.

[quimby]

How about an alternate definition: "A coward is a person who would forgo their goals rather than risk something they value." Since these cowards believe death is the ultimate honor, they risked nothing they value.

This deserves to be repeated, every time left defends the cowards.

[quimby]

Good points. Only the "right wing extremists" can be accused of censorship.

[quimby]

Calling the terrorists "not cowardly" was not the statement that got him in trouble. It was the "WE ARE THE COWARDS" statement.

Keep your eye on the ball.

[Amerigomag]

There would be no controversy had Maher used the pronoun "he" (as in William Jefferson Clinton) instead of "we". Maher just could bring his liberal heart to blaspheme his idol.

Maher knew in his heart it was a "he" but just couldn't get it out no matter how plain the truth. Oh well! The wages of sin are death.

[nanomid]

Being cowardly is showning fear

No one person is going to get this right, because it's not possible.

One could consider suicide the cowards way of not dealing with the consequences of their actions.
One could consider being cautious as cowardly.

It should be obvious that not taking on unnecessary risk is intelligent, not cowardly per se.
It should also be obvious that facing death when there are alternatives is also not cowardly.

There are no countries, coorporations, or gods.

There is only human behavior and it's consequences.
These other ideas are merely proxies for people with roughly similiar envelopes of behavior.
Using emotionally based concepts are meant solely to deal with persuading humans and affecting behavior.
It has little to do with the science of dealing with and limiting behavioral constructs that are dangerous.

[gjenkins]

WE are responsible for what our 'elected' government does wether it is a Clinton, Bush, North, Reno, ...

[NittanyLion]

Exactly. Maher exercised his right to free speech, and so did I (when I emailed show sponsors to tell them they should drop their support). I guess in Jill's mind the only free speech that counts is the stuff coming from the "intelligentsia's" mouths.

[f.Christian]

The bizarro world of liberals---no character--virtue--Truth...just lies--terror--evil--destruction--HATE!!

maniac(liberal-taliban-nazi)

Syllables: ma-ni-ac

Parts of speech: noun , adjective

Part of Speech noun

Pronunciation me ni aek

Definition 1. one who suffers from mania, or from insanity generally.

Synonyms lunatic (1) , psychopath , madwoman , madman

Crossref. Syn. crazy

Similar Words crazy , kook , nut

Definition 2. a wild, violent person, esp. one who attacks or threatens others.

Synonyms fiend (2) , savage (2) , kook

Crossref. Syn. crazy

Similar Words monster , lunatic , demon , devil , madman

Definition 3. one who has an excessive desire or enthusiasm.

Example She is a maniac for keeping her house clean.

Synonyms fiend (3) , nut (4)

Crossref. Syn. fanatic

Similar Words enthusiast , addict , demon , aficionado , buff1

Part of Speech adjective

Definition 1. ravingly or violently insane; maniacal.

Synonyms wild (8) , maniacal , frenzied {frenzy (n 2)} , berserk (1,2)

Similar Words lunatic , hysterical , crazy , rabid , mad , raving {rave (vi)} , psychopathic

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Crazy people are unable to have or understand virtue--courage...don't even qualify for hypocrisy--humanity
(homo sapien means the ability to make a correct thought-decision-SOUL)!!

[Anochka]

Sorry, but as much as I dislike Maher, he was correct to call our pie-in-the-sky attack on Serbia cowardly. It was. Additionally, it was criminal.

[quimby]

WE are responsible for what our 'elected' government does wether it is a Clinton, Bush, North, Reno, ...

Thats partly true. But the media deserves far more of the responsibility. They were the enablers. And maher was/is one od the more vocal clintton supporters.

Its ironic that if maher had actually made the statemnet "Clinton was the coward, loobing cruise missles" most would have stood up and cheered.

So one could say it is maher who is the coward.

[quimby]

Sorry, but as much as I dislike Maher, he was correct to call our pie-in-the-sky attack on Serbia cowardly. It was. Additionally, it was criminal.

Maher was a coward for not naming names.

[gjenkins]

I agree with that completely.

[quimby]

Liberal speech is protected.

Conservative speech is "hate speech"

-NYTIMES

[Amerigomag]

If you remember correctly "we the people" were outraged at Clinton's actions. The radical right was wispering "war crime" and the liberal left was muttering "unfortunate".

Our political system prevents the mob from taking control but to blame the mob no matter how esoterically is misguided.

No American that I spoke with regardless of political persuasian thought bombing an asprin factory and killing a janitor represented a curagoeus American decision.

[quimby]

Spoken as a true leftist.

[gjenkins]

I would propose that when it happened most Americans gave it about 2 seconds of though and then dismissed it. Why? It must have been necessary, and there is really no way for us (citizens) to know the truth about it anyway.