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1 posted on 09/28/2001 2:44:17 PM PDT by Yaelle
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Just tell them they are F-ing morons, that would be their response!
2 posted on 09/28/2001 2:47:27 PM PDT by RasterMaster
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To the "Arab racist" accusation, I would say, "If your fears are based entirely on race, perhaps. If you are afraid to fly with old Arab men and women, Arab families with small children, Arab teenaged couples who are holding hands and giggling off in a corner, and so forth, that's racist because you are suspecting them solely on the basis of race. But if you are only afraid of certain types, you are also factoring in sex, age, apparent occupation, and apparent family status. Thus you are not racist."

I would also add that, as they would extend their sympathy to any African-American whose family had been killed by the Klan, and would understand if they simply feared white men after that, they should extend the same sympathy to fellow Americans. If they CANNOT, that means they are holding Americans to higher standards than they are holding other groups to, and that is the soft bigotry of lowered expectations. That is, they secretly expect better of Americans because they secretly think we are more sophisticated than the "ethnic" types for whom they would make excuses.

5 posted on 09/28/2001 2:53:53 PM PDT by Anamensis
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Go to the Drudge Report and pull up this week's or last week's column by Michael Kelly an esteemed liberal columnist who delivers a stunning critique of knee jerk pacificism. Kelly quotes George Orwell in the 1942 Partisan Review as saying the "...objective of pacificism is pro-fascism." Anyway, you should leaflet with it. It's really a good piece. Good luck.

Also, remember the words of Patrick Henry: "Gentlemen cry, 'Peace, Peace'. There is no peace."

6 posted on 09/28/2001 2:54:38 PM PDT by Pinetop
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If we immediately deport all non-citizens that came from the middle east, you would have more confidence that the Arab you meet is a citizen and less likely to be a terrorist.
8 posted on 09/28/2001 2:55:00 PM PDT by Jack Wilson
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To: Yaelle
Don't argue with them. Just load up on several brewskies and piss on their Birkenstocks!

Best FReegards...Mustang sends.

10 posted on 09/28/2001 2:59:24 PM PDT by Mustang
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To: Yaelle
An intelligent person declines to enter a battle of wits with an unarmed person. How smart are you for trying to have a contest of words with Liberals?

That being said, ask them how we won World War II? Did we do it with words? Did the right words bring peace in our relations with Japan, Italy and Germany? Then what brought about peace? Superior weaponry, determination and sacrifice.

How did we win the Cold War with USSR? Did the right words bring that about? What brought victory? Superior weaponry, determination and sacrifice.

What will win the war on terrorism? Have THEY come up with the magic words that will assuage these people who think nothing about killing thousands of innocent men, women and children in the blink of an eye? If so, please urge them to try their words. But also urge them to stay out of the way while the rest of us use our superior weaponry, determination and sacrifice -- the proven "peacemakers".

12 posted on 09/28/2001 3:00:22 PM PDT by PackerBoy
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Re: NYT, WP, LAT, NPR, CNN

I would not call this "well-read". I would call anyone who gets news from these sources alone "brainwashed tools of the Left". (But no one ever accused me of being careful about what I say.) And no, it would not help to add the Seattle Times. : )

I would tell the friend who accused you of being a racist that if he is comfortable overriding common sense at a time like this, he is perfectly welcome to do that - but expecting someone else to check their brain at the door when it could be a matter of life and death is completely unreasonable. He is, of course, welcome at any time to demonstrate his warm feelings of inclusiveness for thirty-something Muslim men who are not citizens of this country by say, putting his wife and kids on an airplane where men fitting that profile are aboard and staying home himself.

You might remind your friends that racial profiling, while uncomfortable and unfortunate for innocent people who are inconvenienced and/or embarrassed by such things, is not the worst thing that can happen to a person. Something worse is losing three of the best and brightest black Washington D.C. school children, who believed they were going on a field trip to California but were instead flown against their will into a corner of the Pentagon.

We're all experiencing discomfort right now. The discomfort we feel losing our feeling of security regarding air travel is, I dare say, just as bad as having someone ask you questions at the airport. Knowing when you or your wife or your child boards a plane that it could be used by terrorists to kill you and people on the ground, or shot down by fighter jets - gee, I don't know - I think it ranks right up there with being asked to find another means of transportation besides air travel on the discomfort scale.

13 posted on 09/28/2001 3:00:25 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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Offer the jackass a plane ticket to Afghanistan, then call him a racist when he declines.
14 posted on 09/28/2001 3:00:36 PM PDT by Unbeliever (djm111@ev1.net)
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Ask them how America "deserved" this. They will say we are imperialists blah blah. Then ask if America is responsible for the actions of right-wing paramilitaries that we funded in places like Latin America. They will say YES. Then ask them if Iran and Iraq are not responsible for attacks against us carried out with their funding. It's a neat little trap! If America deserved to be attacked for criminals we funded (in their opinion), then if Iraq or Iran supported Bin Laden they deserve to be attacked, too!
15 posted on 09/28/2001 3:01:03 PM PDT by xm177e2
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Sucker them into telling you that the proper response to the attack is to send foreign aid to improve the Afghanistani's lives instead of bombing them. Then explain that that's what we HAVE been doing, and it didn't work.

Point out that our "anti-Islam" foreign policy of late has included bombing putative Christians to protect Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo, and to protect Muslims from other Muslims in Kuwait, an "imperialistic" attack if there ever was one.

Ask them why they're so durn-sure that Israel will do anything we want them to viz. the Palestinians when the Israelis have already used Americans (Pollard) as spies against us and bombed our ship the U.S.S. Liberty?

Ask them why they think this is similar to Vietnam when we haven't fired a shot yet and have taken thousands of innocent casualties.

Ask them why freeing Tibet from Communist domination is cool but freeing Afghanistan wasn't.

Ask them if reflexive anti-Americanism isn't the real root of the problem.

Ask them why liberals are such mindless, lockstep, goosestepping jerks.

17 posted on 09/28/2001 3:02:03 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Yipes, I misquoted Orwell--I went back and checked the quote, which should read: "Pacifism is objectively pro-fascist." My apologies. Please do check out Kelly's column in the 9/26 Washington Post. You can retrieve it @ WashingtonPost.com or link through Drudge.
18 posted on 09/28/2001 3:02:12 PM PDT by Pinetop
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To: Yaelle
If they question your judgement aren't they being ..... judgemental?
21 posted on 09/28/2001 3:04:03 PM PDT by freedomlover
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You might also try to make them state exactly what they think we should do. And make it clear that you don't mean "what we should NOT do" (war, bombings, deportations, etc...). When they start in on the activities of the CIA over the last 50 years, tell them that you want to know what to do NOW.

For instance, do they know what Bin Laden wants? (He wants all Muslim Holy Sites turned over to Islamic governments and the US military out of the Middle East.) So the question is, do we give him what he wants or no? If we do, won't we encourage terrorism?

If they want us to abandon Israel, ask them if you think it's right for us to drop a responsibility we took on 60 years ago? What will happen to the Israelis if we abandon them? Do we want that on our consciences? What if there is another Holocaust?

Ask them what they think will happen in Kuwait if we leave? What will Saddam Hussein do? Do they want that?

If they mention that SH invaded Kuwait because we somehow indicated that we might not do anything about it, do they think that indicates that "we gave him permission?" Was permission ours to give? (No) Then we couldn't have given it. Are we saying that from now on, a country's borders mean nothing to us? If larger countries invade smaller countries, are we to do nothing? Do they want us to be isolationists?

If their answers lead back to anything that sounds like "We should let the UN be the judge" then they are ultimately socialists and want a one-world government. Ask them how they feel about Microsoft's monopoly? If they dislike monopolies, why would they support an oligarchy?

23 posted on 09/28/2001 3:05:47 PM PDT by Anamensis
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Ax them what would happen, right now, to ANY American plopped in the center of Afghanistan. It wouldn't be pretty...

Ax 'em if any Taliban man should be permitted to beat the snot out of any woman who shows more than the whites of her eyes...

Also ax 'em if destroying 20% of New York's office space wasn't an act of war, what WOULD they consider an act of war...

24 posted on 09/28/2001 3:06:00 PM PDT by Libloather
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This 'smart' person expects you to turn off your common sense in the name of racial diversity? Well, ask him/her if he/she then plan to protect you from all harm if you then sit in First Class with 5 Muslim men, all about 25 yrs old. Your friend is a fool, one who lacks the good sense to look out for trouble and be prepared.It is their moral obligation now to provide protection to you if they attempt to prevent you from protecting yourself.
27 posted on 09/28/2001 3:06:13 PM PDT by habs4ever
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Would Lincoln's quote of the "enemy within" come in handy?
Worked for me with a fence-sitter.
30 posted on 09/28/2001 3:08:17 PM PDT by lizma
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To: Yaelle
I just finished reading "Dr. No" in Texas Monthly's October issue.

If you logon to texasmonthly.com and sign up, you could get a grrrrreaat article about Ron Paul. There's a conservative for you.

If not, then just put either the word "constitution" or anything from it you can remember in a sentence and they'll either provide awesome firework-tantrums or leave you alone.

Good luck, and if all else fails tell them they're invited over to your house on "Ronald Reagan Day."

31 posted on 09/28/2001 3:09:20 PM PDT by sayfer bullets
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Tell the peaceniks that, at the dinner table, conservatives always try to teach their kids to give peas a chance.
34 posted on 09/28/2001 3:09:58 PM PDT by Libloather
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He argued with me today that anyone who would feel uneasy getting on a plane with a group of Arab men IS A RACIST.

Ask him if he would go into an IRS building if he saw a white guy wearing camoflauge clothing in a Ryder truck out front. No? He's a RACIST too.

35 posted on 09/28/2001 3:10:08 PM PDT by gore_sux
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If someone says they're "against war", then just ask if they thought WWII should have been fought, or the Civil War. The Civil War actually killed the highest percentage of Americans of any war, and created huge civilian suffering in the South. If they are for either of these wars, then they're not "against war". Period.

When you point this out, they'll say "We had to oppose Hitler". Just reply that the particular reason they are for having fought the war is irrelevant. If they are for any war that's been fought, they're not against war. They're just against this particular war. Everyone can claim to be against war if you limit it to wars they disagree with. I was against our war in Kosovo and I supported the Gulf War, so I guess I can claim to be "against war". Don't let them get away with this "I'm against war" BS.

37 posted on 09/28/2001 3:11:41 PM PDT by lasereye
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