I Need Argument Fodder For Peacenik Liberals Tomorrow Night

vanity | Yaelle

[Yaelle]

Please help me. I will be spending the evening tomorrow surrounded by old friends who are well-read (NYT, WP, LAT, NPR, CNN) and educated, yet as liberal as can be. One is even a Hollywood liberal, smart though as misguided as you can imagine.

He argued with me today that anyone who would feel uneasy getting on a plane with a group of Arab men IS A RACIST. That any fear one would have in such a situation, even so soon after the atrocities, would be irrational. I tried to hold my own on this point, saying that the time elapsed since the tragedy was so short that the fear is still rational at this point. I think we merely agreed to disagree, because he thought that any Arab currently asked to leave a plane should win a lawsuit against the airline. I am no racist, and I think it is very sad that any innocent should be so humiliated, but I feel that the innocent Arabs so accused are simply more victims of the terrorists and their attacks.

I am expecting mild anti-Bush sentiment, anti-protracted war opinions, perhaps the "America may have asked for this with all their horrible activities in the world" stuff, and an inordinate focus on "hate crimes" tomorrow. I am a poor arguer contrasted with the man mentioned above, but not for lack of passion.

I need nice, neat, friendly but firm arguments to counter any of the above positions. To whom could I turn but my eloquent Freepers? Anyone want to help? Give me your best. I will be grateful!

[Yaelle]

Indeed - I should say that: I'd rather be called a racist than a victim.

[Yaelle]

You might also try to make them state exactly what they think we should do

And don't give up until you get a good answer... the Libs I talk to ALWAYS TRY TO HEDGE THIS!!

And if they say something cheek-turny, I have to ask them WHAT would cause them to strike back. How much would it take? A nuclear bomb on one of our cities? What?

[Yaelle]

That's a great column! Thanks!

[Sgt_Schultze]

Bump!

[Yaelle]

The end result of pacifism under these circumstances is to support Bin Laden or some other monster who will continue to attack and eventually destroy us in the name of tyrrany.

Absolutely. I don't understand the urge to turn and blame your won country at a time like this. These libs are so hard-hearted and cynical, all while preaching lovey-dovey save the animals and all.

[Yaelle]

Did I miss something ? Aren't Arabs white ?

Oh, so maybe I can be acquitted from the charge of racism on a technicality! LOL. Good point.

[Yaelle]

Yes, most of my family is liberal too, and I have to hush a lot there, too. But in this case, at least one will start pouring forth with liberal claptrap: OF COURSE the conversation will center on current events, which we all know are the attacks, war, etc. I feel so strongly about these issues that I don't want to be polite and sit there and let the liberal nonsense just HANG in the air.

I am so grateful for so many good ideas here tonight. I wish I had a TelePrompter!

[Yaelle]

Peacenik = one who makes a virtue out of letting others put their lives on the line for him/her...

Well put.

[Yaelle]

Oh no!!!! You reminded me about the Commie March tomorrow!! What if they say something positive about it, like "So glad to see there is some vocal opposition to Bush" or something! How can I not choke on a stuffed mushroom???

[Yaelle]

If you make it look as though they are sacrificing inner-city blacks (for ANY reason) they are going to have a liberal reaction that's bound to be fun to watch. (-:

Ohhhhhh yes! Good one! Just like putting baking soda and vinegar into an empty film vial!

[Azzurri]

Ask him to walk thru a suburb at night. Then, tell him to walk in Harlem (or other inner city) at night. When he inevitably refuses to do the latter, call him a racist.

[Yaelle]

Thanks, Mahone. He was great on the radio today (his bud Larry Elder's show); wish I could have heard the whole thing. I'll check out the website.

[Yaelle]

None of them had experienced anything very unpleasant and one of them said, he had found himself looking very suspiciously at other middle easterners. It isn't "profiling", it is common sense.

EXCELLENT. Libs love anecdotes. This is a very good one for our side. Didn't Jesse the Babymaker also say he felt uneasy walking down a dark street with a gang of black youths following him??

[Yaelle]

Yes, Tibet is a great example. I will let you all know; hope I don't let you down after all these great points and end up caught in some stupid liberal argument web! LOL.

[Yaelle]

You wrote this? It's great! I know there are many others who do know something about what happened or what still may happen, and it is a shame to hold the "whole class" of Arabs in the country back in order to find out who knows what. Indeed, we need to wait until more Arab confreres show their loyalty to the USA by telling all that they know.

If we go overboard with political correctness, it will be the rope they end up hanging us with. We will lose this battle against terrorism RIGHT HERE with the minds of our citizens, if predjudice is worse than terrorism.

Thanks.

[Yaelle]

Aw, I was curious, but the link didn't work.

[Yaelle]

I love your fervor and your confidence. Very manly! I can't live up to it, quite, though, because of my opposite gender! Still, I hope to expel a little feminine fire while still coming off as nice! LOL.

[Yaelle]

If he didn't in '96, he sure did on 9/11. (Declare war, that is.)

[Yaelle]

I called them "well-read" even though only the lib papers to separate them from complete illiterates!

[Timesink]

The best way to nail a liberal when they start making accusations of racism, especially a Hollywood liberal, is to immediately put them on the defensive. Ask them, if they're so enlightened and free of bigotry: When was the last time they saw a less-than-perfect-looking human being get a role in any Hollywood project, be it film or TV? Why is it that the vast majority of actresses find their careers over by the time they hit 40, yet the men can go on decades longer? Have they personally ever been involved in a decision about filling a part that even ONCE didn't revolve entirely around the actors' physical attractiveness or the lack thereof? Why hasn't Denzel Washington won an Oscar yet? Why do young female actresses today HAVE to pose for slutty nearly-nude spreads in magazines like FHM and Maxim if they want their careers to go anywhere at all? Why are blacks and hispanics so underrepresented in Hollywood compared to their numbers in the population at large?

Then get personal. How many people has said Hollywood liberal ever dated in his/her life? How many of those people did he/she date because the person's actual personality instead of how good they looked at a party? Have they ever dated anyone that was more than five pounds over the so-called "ideal weight"? Have they ever HIRED anyone more than five pounds over said "ideal weight"? I don't mean to be on screen either, I mean for ANYTHING, even secretarial work. What if their child came home with an unattractive boyfriend or girlfriend? Or a fat one? Or god help them, a black or Asian? In short, there are few places on earth MORE bigoted than Hollywood. If they try to paint you into a corner at all, just start nailing them. Verbally rip them to shreds with questions like the above. How would said liberal feel if their child came