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Another fine one from Peggy Noonan.
1 posted on 09/28/2001 1:21:51 AM PDT by Darlin'
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To: Darlin'
Indeed! thanks for posting ... I couldn't help, when Peggy was describing the mostly-Catholic icons left at the memorial sites, thinking of the photos of the trashed Catholic icons in the home of Elian Gonzalez's relatives last summer following the "raid." We indeed are in a new time, aren't we? With new leadership that would never create such an obscene display. Gold bless America, indeed!
2 posted on 09/28/2001 1:32:50 AM PDT by JennysCool
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To: Darlin', sheltonmac
Having "God" upon our lips is nothing unusual in America. America has always "believed" in "God." Check the polls over the years. However, when you introduce Jesus Christ into the equation things change real fast.

You see, according to Scripture, knowing "God" is not enough. Anyone can talk about God in general. But the only God worth knowing, is the God who is revealed in the person and work of Jesus Christ. He alone is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of His being.

3 posted on 09/28/2001 2:59:23 AM PDT by sola gracia
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To: Darlin'
There is a promise from God in scripture:

"if my people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land" 2nd Chronicles 7:14 NKJV

It seems that we are on the right track. We are doing the first two:

1)We must be humble (not weak, but aknowledging our dependence on God).

2)We must pray and seek His face (this is just starting, nationally).

3)We must turn from our wicked ways (this will tell whether we are serious or not).

6 posted on 09/28/2001 6:34:17 AM PDT by P8riot
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To: Darlin'
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9 posted on 09/28/2001 7:20:04 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Darlin'
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11 posted on 09/28/2001 7:23:00 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Darlin'
In time of war and not before
God and soldier all men adore
In time of peace when all is righted
God is forgotten, the soldier slighted.
22 posted on 09/28/2001 7:42:52 AM PDT by Hillary? Hell no!
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To: Wingsofgold, Letitring, TheJudge, ArizFlash, ValerieUSA
I think you'll like this one. :)
35 posted on 09/28/2001 8:30:09 AM PDT by Darlin'
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To: Servant of the Nine, christine11, westmex, Mo1,
I think y'all will like this one. :)
38 posted on 09/28/2001 8:32:21 AM PDT by Darlin'
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To: catpuppy, grannie9, Quilla, Prentice, meema
I think y'all will like this one. :)
41 posted on 09/28/2001 8:34:05 AM PDT by Darlin'
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To: grammymoon, RichInOC, okimhere, celtic gal
I think y'all will like this one. :)
43 posted on 09/28/2001 8:36:41 AM PDT by Darlin'
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To: Oschisms, GWfan, gogeo, DeSota, Darheel
I think y'all will like this one. :)
44 posted on 09/28/2001 8:38:38 AM PDT by Darlin'
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To: Alkhin, philman_36, null and void, gratefulwharffratt
I think y'all will like this one. :)
46 posted on 09/28/2001 8:40:37 AM PDT by Darlin'
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To: Kathleen, .38sw, susangirl, Jaidyn, LostThread
I think y'all will like this one. :)
48 posted on 09/28/2001 8:43:21 AM PDT by Darlin'
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To: Darlin'
"God Is Back."

He never went anywhere, mankind did. They went away from Him.
He is always waiting patiently for their return.
JMO, for what it is worth.

72 posted on 09/28/2001 9:08:12 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: Darlin'
He NEVER left!! We turned our backs!!
75 posted on 09/28/2001 9:23:29 AM PDT by BlueEagle
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To: Darlin'
I got this email a couple of days ago and saved it. It is attributed to Paul Harvey in 1998, but I haven't confirmed it. It is appropos of this discussion.

An Open Letter from God

May 30, 1998 Paul Harvey

My Dear Children .. believe me, that is all of you. I consider myself a pretty patient guy. I mean, look at the Grand Canyon. It took millions of years to get it right. And about evolution – boy, nothing is slower than designing that whole Darwinian thing to take place – cell by cell – and gene by gene.

And I have been patient through your fashions – your civilizations – wars and schemes – and the countless ways that you take me for granted until you get yourselves into big trouble again and again.

But on the recent Christmas occasion of my son's birthday – I want to let you know about some of the things that started ticking me off!

First of all, your religious rivalries are driving me up a wall. Enough already!

Let's get one thing straight: these are your religions – not mine! I'm the whole enchilada! I'm beyond 'em all!

Every one of your religions claims that there's only one of me – which, by the way, is absolutely true – but in the very next breath, each religion claims that it's my favorite one – and each claims that it's bible was written personally by me – that all the other bibles are man made.

Oh, me! How do I ever begin to put a stop to such utter nonsense. All right, listen up now! I am your father and mother. And I don't play favorites among my children. Also, I hate to break it to you – but I don't write! My longhand is awful and I've always been more of a doer anyway – so all of your books – including those bibles – were written by men and women. They were inspired men and women. They were remarkable people. But, they also made mistakes here and there and I made sure of that so that you would never trust a written word – rather than your own living heart!

You see, one human being, to me, even a bum on the street – is worth more than all of the Holy books in the world. That's just the kind of a guy I am.

My spirit is not an historical thing. It's alive right now – right now! As fresh as your next breath!

Holy books and religious rites are sacred and powerful – but they are not more so than the least of you. They were only meant to steer you in right direction – not keep you arguing with each other .. and certainly not to keep you from trusting your own personal connection with me.

Which brings me to my next point about your nonsense. You act like I need you and your religion to stick up for me or win souls – for my sake. Please don't do me any favors. I can stand on my own, thank you. I don't need constant credit. I just want you to be good to each other.

And another thing: I don't get all worked up over money or politics. So stop dragging my name into your dramas. For example: I swear to me that I never threatened Oral Roberts. I never rode in any of Rosnishia's Rolls Royces – AND, I NEVER told Pat Robertson to run for President. And I have never, ever had a conversation with Jim Baker, or Jerry Falwell, or Jimmy Swaggart. 'Course, come judgment day, I certainly intend to.

Now, the thing is – I want you to stop thinking of religion as some sort of a loyalty pledge to me. The true purpose of your religion is so that you can become more aware of me – not the other way around.

Believe me, I know you already. I know what is in each of your hearts. And I love you anyway – with no strings attached. So, lighten up, and enjoy me. That's what religions are for.

What you seem to forget is how mysterious I am. You look at the petty differences in your scripture and you say, "WELL, it this is the truth, then that can't be!" But instead of trying to figure out my paradoxes and unfathomable naiveté – which, by the way, you never will – why not open your hearts to the simple common threads of every religion.

You know what I'm talking about – play nice with each other. Love and respect everyone. Be kind. Even when life is scary or confusing, take courage and be of good cheer – for I'm always with you. And learn how to be quiet – so that you can hear my still small voice. I don't like to shout.

Leave the world a better place, by living your life with dignity and gracefulness, for you are my own child. Hold back nothing from life, for the parts of you that can die, surely will. And the parts that can't – won't. So don't worry, be happy. (I stole that last line from Bobby McFerrin) – but who gave it to him in the first place?

Simple stuff now - why do you keep making it more complicated? It's like you're always looking for an excuse to be upset.

And, I am very tired of your main excuse. Do you think I care whether you call me God, or Jaway, or Jehovah, or Allah, Wakatonka, Branda, Father, Mother, even the Void of Nirvana. Do you think I care which of my special children you feel closest to: Jesus, Mary, Buddha, Krishna, Muhammad, or any of the others?

You can call me and my special ones any name you choose – if only you will go about my business of loving one another as I love you. How can you keep neglecting something so simple?

No, I am not telling you to abandon your religions. Enjoy your religions. Honor them. Learn from them. Just as you should enjoy, honor, and learn from your parents. But, do you walk around telling everyone that your parents are better than theirs?

Your religion – like your parents – may always have the most special place in your heart. I don't mind that at all – and I don't want you to combine all of the great traditions into one great big mess. Each religion is unique for a reason. Each has a unique style so that people can find the best path for themselves.

But my special children – the ones your religions revolve around – all live in the same place – in my heart. And they get along perfectly – I assure you. The clergy must stop creating a myth of sibling rivalry where there is none.

My blessed children of Earth – the world has grown too small for your pervasive religious bigotry and confusions. The whole planet is now connected by air travel, satellite dishes, telephones, fax machines, rock concerts, diseases, and mutual needs and concerns.

Get with the program! If you really want to help me celebrate the birthday of my son Jesus – then commit yourself to figuring our how to feed your hungry, and clothe your naked, and protect you abused, and shelter your poor – and just as important: make your own everyday life a shining example of kindness and good humor.

I've given you all the resources you need – if only you abandon your fear of each other and begin living and loving and laughing together.

Finally, my children everywhere – remember who's birthday you honor on what you call Christmas Day, December 25th. And the fearlessness with which he chose to live and die. As I love him, so do I love each of you.

Now – I am not really ticked off. Not really! I just wanted to grab your attention – because I hate to see you suffer. But I gave you free will, so what can I do now – other than try to influence you through reason – persuasion – a little old fashioned guilt and manipulation. After all, you know, I am the original Jewish mother. I just want you to be happy. And I'll sit in the dark.

I really am, indeed, I swear, with you always – always – that in me.

Your one and only,

God

78 posted on 09/28/2001 9:32:25 AM PDT by dan on the right
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To: Darlin'
A special thanks for bringing God back into public life must go to W. He seized the moment. The moment was created by the outpouring of love and prayer through the land. W seized it at the Cathedral. He brought all three branches of Government together for the service. The service was ecumenical, with leaders of all faiths participating. It was bipartisan. W went to the effort of flying the Clintons in from distant continents and stomached seating them next to his mother on behalf of a greater cause. W's talk was the perfect melding of the sacred and the secular. After he talked it was impossible to imagine it could be otherwise and has been otherwise for forty years.

Whatever fancy phrases are made in court to keep prayer out of public life will seem silly to people who remember that service. When my child's public school handbook came to my house in August I winced when the phrase " It takes a village to raise a child" was printed on the front cover. I attended back to school night 4 days after the bombing. We participated in the National Anthem, had a moment of prayer, and sang God Bless America. I don't know if the Principal had planned to do so before the bombing, but she introduced all the staff, including janitors, secretaries and food workers. All were applauded enthusiastically.

God is back in public life, not because of religious quarrels (like the one's in this thread), partly because of political activism, but mostly because of acts of courage, sacrifice and caring by millions, and exemplified by our Commander in Chief.

98 posted on 09/28/2001 5:20:45 PM PDT by calebcar (allevymd)
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To: *Peggy Noonan list
Indexing article to the PN list
103 posted on 11/09/2001 8:25:23 AM PST by Pokey78
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To: Darlin'
Great article from Peggy Noonan.

The true test of a nation is not so much that we cry out to God when things are going badly, it's that we cry out to Him and praise Him when things are going well. When things were going well we, as a nation, said that He didn't belong in the schoolhouse, the courthouse, the government's house and for some, even in their own homes. Our government tried to ban Him from all public events.

We should be thankful that He forgives our unfaithfulness and bothers to listen in our time of need.

104 posted on 11/09/2001 8:38:53 AM PST by texgal
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