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God Is Back
WSJ Opinion Journal ^ | 28 September 2001 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 09/28/2001 1:21:51 AM PDT by Darlin'

Edited on 04/23/2004 12:03:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

In the wake of an atrocity, he shows he hasn't forsaken New York.

God is back. He's bursting out all over. It's a beautiful thing to see.

In the past 17 days, since the big terrible thing, our country has, unconsciously but quite clearly, chosen a new national anthem. It is "God Bless America," the song everyone sang in the days after the blasts to show they loved their country. It's what they sang on television, it's what kids sang in school, it's what families sang in New York at 7 p.m. the Friday after the atrocity when we all went outside with our candles and stood together in little groups in front of big apartment buildings. A friend of mine told me you could hear it on Park Avenue from uptown to downtown, the soft choruses wafting from block to block.


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To: stuartcr
Why is it so important for someone to be right?

To try to be right has two meaning:
One to insist that right is what one does or believe, so it is post fact justification.
Second is to search for what is right and trying to adhere to it.

The first way is not commendable but very common, comfortable and used by the multitude, The second is a narrow and rocky and not many bother to go there.

21 posted on 09/28/2001 7:42:34 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: Darlin'
In time of war and not before
God and soldier all men adore
In time of peace when all is righted
God is forgotten, the soldier slighted.
22 posted on 09/28/2001 7:42:52 AM PDT by Hillary? Hell no!
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To: stuartcr
I don't have any idea what you are trying to say. Why do you assume anything about God? We are human beings, we have different religions, these religions were made up by man.

Are you trying to say that there is no ultimate truth avaiable to man, that all there is a product of his wishes and imagination? If so that we can picl/create beliefs which suit us and justify the way of life we prefer. But what is the value of such beliefs? They would be a pure delusion.

So are you saying that we cannot know the truth?

23 posted on 09/28/2001 7:46:26 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: angelo, sola gracia
"You mean according to your scripture, and your conception of God."

No, there is only one God revealed in creation, in His Word, and in the person of Jesus Christ. A belief in any other "god" is a belief in a false deity. Whether you accept that truth or not does not change who God is. He is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

24 posted on 09/28/2001 7:46:54 AM PDT by sheltonmac
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To: A. Pole
Insisting to be right about a concept or belief, or other things unprovable seems rather arrogant to me.
25 posted on 09/28/2001 7:48:21 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: stuartcr
these religions were made up by man.

Why do you think man "made up" religon?

Why do you think man has a conscience?

If we had no moral code how would the world be different?

26 posted on 09/28/2001 7:52:23 AM PDT by lockeliberty
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To: stuartcr
Insisting to be right about a concept or belief, or other things unprovable seems rather arrogant to me.

But if your objective is humility, do you think that negating the truth of "concept or belief" is any less arrogant than asserting it?

27 posted on 09/28/2001 7:53:36 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: stuartcr
"Insisting to be right about a concept or belief, or other things improvable seems rather arrogant to me. "

Agreed!

Please do not take this as an attack on any religion it is just based upon my suspicion that "people" are not the best sources for important information.

As a test of the improbability of accuracy in any version Bible or the Koran, try to exactly reproduce the phrase in post #6( I think) from 2nd Chronicles 7:14 NKJV WITHOUT going back to read it.

Unless you are a student of the Bible, what are the chances of duplicating this with 100% accuracy.

I have a very hard time believing human beings with their limited memory, tendency to slant things to their liking and down right lying could relay stories for thousands of years in both aural and written form without some errors (to be kind) slipping into the text.

Remember that the "V" in "NKJV" stands for "version".

28 posted on 09/28/2001 8:06:53 AM PDT by Wurlitzer
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To: Wurlitzer
try to exactly reproduce the phrase in post #6( I think)

What did you say? I try not look at your post.

29 posted on 09/28/2001 8:10:38 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: A. Pole
"What did you say? I try not look at your post. "

Thank you very much for proving my point!

30 posted on 09/28/2001 8:13:23 AM PDT by Wurlitzer
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To: spectre, P8riot
Ditto's to both of you
31 posted on 09/28/2001 8:14:43 AM PDT by Egg
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To: Wurlitzer
Thank you very much for proving my point!

What exactly is your point? That we know nothing? Are you a skeptic or agnostic?

32 posted on 09/28/2001 8:18:40 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: Wurlitzer
As a test of the improbability of accuracy in any version Bible or the Koran, try to exactly reproduce the phrase in post #6( I think) from 2nd Chronicles 7:14 NKJV WITHOUT going back to read it. Unless you are a student of the Bible, what are the chances of duplicating this with 100% accuracy. I have a very hard time believing human beings with their limited memory, tendency to slant things to their liking and down right lying could relay stories for thousands of years in both aural and written form without some errors (to be kind) slipping into the text.

  Well, who do you think has been translating and copying the Bible over its written existence?- and they weren't relying on their memory either! If your assertion that a text cannot be copied accurately is all that stands between you and a genuine faith in Christ, I strongly urge you to do even a modest amount of research on this topic. Even if you assumed that God played absolutely no role in the preservation of His Word, you will be convinced of the accuracy Bible copies (known by comparing modern texts with recently discovered ancient texts) and translations.

33 posted on 09/28/2001 8:24:04 AM PDT by Egg
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To: A. Pole
"What exactly is your point? That we know nothing? Are you a skeptic or agnostic? "

No! Absolutely not. I believe firmly in God and Christ. There is no other way in my opinion to expain all the things in the world. Don't attempt to pigeon hole me with some inflammatory name.

I just do not take at face value, 100% of what has been passed on for centuries, as totally accurate. It is not humanly possible. With the numerous religions and their supporting documents it is logical to conclude that at best all but 1 are inaccurate. Note: I did not say "wrong".

34 posted on 09/28/2001 8:26:01 AM PDT by Wurlitzer
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To: Wingsofgold, Letitring, TheJudge, ArizFlash, ValerieUSA
I think you'll like this one. :)
35 posted on 09/28/2001 8:30:09 AM PDT by Darlin'
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To: sola gracia
Yes, and that is why when GWB said at--the Iowa Caucus I think?--that Christ was his favorite philosopher "because he changed my heart" I knew he was my man.
36 posted on 09/28/2001 8:30:14 AM PDT by lawgirl
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To: Wurlitzer
I typed it from memory. would you like to check it against that version.
37 posted on 09/28/2001 8:31:41 AM PDT by P8riot
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To: Servant of the Nine, christine11, westmex, Mo1,
I think y'all will like this one. :)
38 posted on 09/28/2001 8:32:21 AM PDT by Darlin'
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To: Egg
It is impossible for humans with the best of intentions to relay information accurately for centuries. If you only look at how things are twisted on this forum you will see even us 100% honest conservatives tend to only relay one side of an issue.

Even if I am wrong in my statement above (unlikely) the translation process to other languages is iffy at best.

I simply do not trust humans to be accurate and truthful. Remember our last President?

39 posted on 09/28/2001 8:32:53 AM PDT by Wurlitzer
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To: Wurlitzer
With the numerous religions and their supporting documents it is logical to conclude that at best all but 1 are inaccurate.

OK, I can accept this as a starting point. With one exception, some religious/philosophical systems do not make a lot of claims and they might be not in conflict with others, Confucionism for example. Various versions of neo-platonism can be reconciled with the revealed Truth.

40 posted on 09/28/2001 8:32:54 AM PDT by A. Pole
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