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To: Bouncer
Well gee if he [Hammer] was such a traitor/criminal shouldn't he be prosecuted?

More lies; more distortion.

Armand Hammer was convicted, not for his real crimes, but for violating campaign finance laws in the 1970s. Bush Senior pardoned him years later when he was old and sick, which was in my opinion a mistake.

But your multi-color html distractions don't exonerate Gore Senior from acting on Hammer's behalf as an agent of Soviet influence.

Truth is Hammer was just as cozy with Republicans as he was with Democrats.

Please be so good as to provide evidence that refutes Zelnick's description of Gore as Hammer's primary contact in Congress. You'll understand our reluctance to take you at your word...

165 posted on 09/27/2001 8:20:34 PM PDT by Interesting Times
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To: Interesting Times
OK, so you're saying that Bush is Ok because there is no evidence of his crimes (even though I've pointed you to a ton of it) but that Hammer is a bad guy who was pardoned but not for his real crimes (for which there is no evidence). Maybe in some bizarro world that makes sense but it doesn't fly with me. You can't try to twist logic that way without getting called on it.

Please be so good as to provide evidence that refutes Zelnick's description of Gore as Hammer's primary contact in Congress.
Why? No crime was committed (remember - no evidence), why should I care if Gore Sr. was Hammers contact. Hammer was real nice to his friends - he gave Reagan a $1 million GIFT! Now we could say that was REAL INKY and that there was probably some quid pro quo there. But you know what, it wasn't illegal. Hammer was free to use Gore Sr. as a contact and free to give a $1 million gift to Reagan. This may come as a surprise to you but Congressman are THERE to be our contacts with the government.

You'll understand our reluctance to take you at your word...

Yeah, I know - the truth hurts and I've given you a ton of truth here to which you have YET to respond.

168 posted on 09/27/2001 9:05:29 PM PDT by Bouncer
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To: Interesting Times
distractions don't exonerate Gore Senior from acting on Hammer's behalf as an agent of Soviet influence.

Wow, an agent of Soviet influence! Just what exactly did Gore Sr. do on behalf of the Soviets? Was he ever charged with anything? Was he spying for the Soviets? Inquiring minds want to know?

You see, I won't fall for a typical "murky allegation with no support" kind of argument. If Gore Sr. actually DID something illegal to aid the Soviets then show us the proof.
Because without proof you can make up any wild ass innuendo about anybody. For instance, what if Gore Sr's brother was actually (and openly) working with the Communists? Why that would make Al Gore's Uncle a Communist sympathizer! You could make up all kinds of wild ass theories about family involvement with the Communists. Boy, I bet that would really look ugly. Kind of like this guy <-click here.

Man I bet with all you Freepers we could make up some wild theories about what's going on there????

173 posted on 09/27/2001 9:20:57 PM PDT by Bouncer
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