Posted on 09/26/2001 2:39:00 PM PDT by TheOtherOne
They say this all the time in the Muslim world. They figure they are superior. We are entitled to say the same.
I see millions of Muslims moving to the West, flooding France in fact. I see zero immigration to Muslim lands. What does this say?
www.dhimmi.com
(II) The Adepts of Radical Islamism Subscribe to an Anachronistic and Widely Discredited Version of a Universal, Monotheistic Faith, Islam, that is a Source of Inspiration to Hundreds of Millions of Muslims worldwide.(A) Radical Islamists believe in a 1400 year-old religious concept that divides the world into two zones: Dar al-Islam: the realm of peace and Dar al-harb: the realm of war. The former is a zone that is ruled by Islamic states which are worthy of full peace, while the latter is ruled by infidels who inhabit a zone of war, susceptible to Islamic subjugation. Radical Islamists promote a religious worldwide confrontation between the two zones that grants legitimacy to imperial conquest, colonialism, slavery, ethnic cleansing, suppression of liberties, forced religious conversion, and Jihad or Holy War.
(B) Radical Islamists also believe in the 1400 year-old concept of Ridda which holds that a natural born or converted Muslim may not convert or revert to another religion. Today, in many countries ruled or influenced by the Radical Islamist version of Koranic Law, there exists a religiously sanctioned death penalty for those who may decide to change their religion.
(III) Radical Islamism Imposes an Inferior Status on All Non-Muslims and the Special Subservient Status of Dhimmi for "the People of the Book" - Jews and Christians.In the 7th century, the Caliph Umar imposed this Dhimmi status on conquered populations under his rule. Christians, Jews, and others were forced to accept Al-Shurut al-Umariya, or Umar's conditions, a system of restrictions designed to shame and despoil non-Muslim subjects. Dhimmi peoples had to relinquish their land, were forced to pay a special "protection" tax (dhimma) or face death, wear distinctive clothing, and were banned from most government positions.
Today, Radical Islamists seek to re-impose this state-sanctioned discrimination, calling it an effort to "protect" minorities. In reality, such measures are always part of an effort to enforce assimilation, conversion, and to annihilate the identity of others. The example of Afganistan, where the Hindu minority is forced to wear distinctive clothing to mark them as infidels, is among the most well known.
In areas throughout the Islamic world, Radical Islamists use repression and violence against infidel minorities. In Egypt, Radical Islamists persecute the Copts; in Sudan, the Radical Islamist regime massacres and enslaves the Dinkas, both Christian and traditionalist; in Lebanon, Radical Islamists terrorize the Christians; in Nigeria, they butchered Biafran Ibos and oppress the Christians. In Iraq and Syria, alleged secular radical regimes that are governed by Arab nationalist ideologies and penetrated by Jihadic norms suppress native Christian cultures. In Iran, they persecute Christians and Bahais; in Kashmir, they wage a terrorist war against the Hindu minority; in the southern Philippines, they terrorize Catholics and kidnap foreigners; in East Timor, they have endorsed the regime's attempts at ethnic cleansing against Christians; in Indonesia, they routinely assault the native Christians, particularly in the Moluccas.
I agree, Signor Berlusconi is outspoken and direct when it comes to the defense of Western values. BTW, he also happens to be opposed the the dilution of the Italian national character by uncontrolled immigration.
On the Mexican amnesty threads, you often are there supporting the amnesty, and being somewhat critical of Americans who want to preserve their borders and cultures.
Why is it O.K. for Italy to do something in this direction and not for the United States?
He's from Milan, and he used to be a singer on cruise ships,and his popularity probably went up 10 pts in Italy today.20 in my cubicle.
patent +AMDG
Great food, great women and one great leader! Gotta love the Italians!
Is that why Bill Clinton was/is such a lying SOB? Look at what he has to come home to.
Do you have any material from the period after 1400?I think Albertas a Catholic, and we prefer the old stuff. Going with anything from the 1400s, well, Alberta's kind of one of those modernists. ;-)
patent +AMDG
When I suggested EXACTLY that 6 months ago I was pilloried by the Liberterians on this site for it. It didn't matter that our energy needs kept us hostage to every crackpot in the Middle East. I wonder if they think energy is part of national defense now?
Just wondering: is there an established set of criteria that one uses to determine the superiority of one culture or civilization over another? If so, who set up the criteria, and by what authority?
I know that they, and their sympathizers, will say we have no right to judge, but in just the case of women's rights alone they don't even see men and women as being equal HUMANS. I think we have a right, and a responsibility, to draw the world's attention to the true nature and intent of these governments.
It serves a very useful purpose for me and helps me a great deal. He's validated a great deal of what I've believed all along. Now if our other leaders would speak that same truth.
But no one here has said that Islamic culture never produced anything valuable. We just said that we're superior.
For example, I'm a big fan of Islamic tile patterns. However, I am a bigger fan of Plato, Aristotle, Tacitus, St. Augustine, Aquinas, Shakespeare, indoor plumbing, democracy, the internal combustion engine, jetliners, Mozart, and Burger King.
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