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War Will Begin Within Days
Electronic Telegraph ^ | 09/26/01 | George Jones and Anton La Guardia

Posted on 09/25/2001 7:37:24 PM PDT by TonyInOhio

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To: TonyInOhio
While he might be doing right in this case, he is still a dyed in the wool marxist.
21 posted on 09/25/2001 9:28:01 PM PDT by Critter
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To: Centurion2000
I'm with you, Centurion2000. I'm beginning to wonder if we'll do anything at all given the talk today about how it's not going to be like D-Day, and we're not going to invade Afghanistan, and we don't want to overthrow the Taliban, etc. Makes me very nervous, because I believe we just HAVE to strike hard. On the other hand, we are sure massing a huge force -- it's been reported that even the Japanese have sent some warships along with the Kitty Hawk's battlegroup. The Japanese will provide intelligence and surveillance, since their constitution doesn't permit them to engage in actual warfare. So who knows what's going on -- maybe a lot of bait and switching to keep everyone off balance.
23 posted on 09/25/2001 9:35:32 PM PDT by Wolfstar
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
Full moon in 6 days
24 posted on 09/25/2001 9:39:52 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: Professional
"...What about the sanctions?! We haven't let the SANCTIONS sink in yet!..."

You left off < /sarcasm > again, dink!....FRegards, Pro

25 posted on 09/25/2001 10:15:00 PM PDT by gonzo
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To: Centurion2000
I've been thinking about this issue with Mecca. How did WWII end. The loss of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was bad, but the Japanese were pretty tough, and if their rulers said "fight", the Japanese people would have fought us with rocks. I don't think we won by killing large numbers of them - we killed their (image) of a god - the Emperor, by showing that he was not a god. I wonder if we'd be willing to take the chance that Allah wouldn't take vengence upon us if "something really bad and very permanent" happened to Mecca. If Allah didn't show up, that might be pretty deflating...Risky strategy, but I'll bet if the fourth plane would have met its target...
27 posted on 09/25/2001 10:39:01 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie (signa@phi.no)
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To: Ulmo
If Congress declared war it would give Bush the power of a whole bunch of "Marshall Law" type actions like rounding up Arabs and putting them in camps etc..

They don't want to do that !

28 posted on 09/25/2001 10:39:24 PM PDT by america-rules
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To: Ulmo
No constitutional war will begin, only unconstitutional war. The People, through their representatives, have not declared war. The President has zero authority to declare war.

Who cares about details or our laws? Just let the government do whatever it wants I am shure they can do it best.
29 posted on 09/25/2001 10:42:24 PM PDT by Libertarian_4_eva
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To: Professional
I disagree, I don't think we look like a Clinton America. I think we have the toughest battle in history here, sequence is everything. If we had sent in a bomb instantly we'd have had unpredictable responses in every part of the world with no chance to react.

Pakistan, which side are they on? Will they fall to fundamentalism the minute we strike Afghanistan? Who else was involved in this? They would be stupid to air the results of the inquiry publicly, we really don't know enough to publicly second guess strategy, we can only hope that when we hit we hit hard and hit the true perpetrators of this.

I'll take just and effective action over urgent and reckless action any time.

Bush is far different from Clinton and I'm sure if we haven't hit yet it's for a good reason.

31 posted on 09/25/2001 10:49:01 PM PDT by EaglesUpForever
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To: TonyInOhio
Let them shake shudder and wonder. As they never know when... I will bet Bin Laden and so damn in sane are terrified.... even as the taliban plays games...they never know when...
32 posted on 09/25/2001 11:30:41 PM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: TonyInOhio
I'll admit to having been a Blair skeptic in days past, but have been converted to an admirer since 911.

That's probably how most Democrats thought about Bush, too.

33 posted on 09/25/2001 11:37:38 PM PDT by xm177e2
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To: cicero's_son
Bush already surrendered when he changed the name of operation from Infinite Justice to Enduring Freedom. Give me a break!
34 posted on 09/25/2001 11:44:25 PM PDT by xclusiv1
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To: The Antiyuppie
Re: #27... interesting scenario.

Maybe THAT is how to forever end the threat of Islamic terrorism. Just *destroy* the Kaaba, defy Allah to reign fire down upon the infidels... and when he doesn't, it may take the spirit out of the Islamic religion once and for all. Totally break their identity, their will to fight.

Or else spark a rash of suicide attacks that make the past few weeks look like high school driver's ed.

35 posted on 09/25/2001 11:47:02 PM PDT by Darth Sidious
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To: Romulus
Your agenda is not unknown, but we cannot possibly accomplish it without declaring ourselves the mortal enemies of muslims everywhere. Very well; if we are truly to attempt a war of anihilation on a billion muslims (most of whom have no power at all to influence their rulers), for whom and what will we be fighting? I ask only for information.

The threat of major destruction, SHOULD cause responsible nations' leaders to clamp down, control, destroy the terrorists. If the nations' leaders cannot or will not do this, we have to do it.

Bush made it clear: There are only two sides. We can't cause these nations to suddenly become democratic. If they did, they would probably support continued terror. Democracy only works, in an "enlightened" place, with right values, cultures, institutions. These places have none of the above, so we must rely on ditators, to keep the evil masses under control. IMHO.

War is hell. We are in a war, not of our choosing. We must play the cards dealt.

It should be obvious to anyone not wearing rose colored glasses, that Islam is at least a MAJOR part of the problem. Among the majors who likely see it that way are most likely USA, Britain, France, Germany,Russia, China, Japan and India. If Islam cannot police itself, it may require a really BIG outside adjustment. The chessboard is set.

36 posted on 09/26/2001 12:08:40 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Ulmo
The President has zero authority to declare war.

England has a president?

37 posted on 09/26/2001 12:15:43 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod
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To: TonyInOhio
He looks determined, huh?:



38 posted on 09/26/2001 2:11:31 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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