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To: American Soldier, cibco, stavka2, pericles, beowulf, hoplite
I hope you were not being serious in thinking "Allah's suitcase" is a joke. Rest assured that one of the major Western cities will be destroyed by a crude nuclear device before the end of the year. Moscow as good a choice as any -- if not better...

Well we certainly have an eclectic bunch of whiners today! Must be something to do with the world being on the brink of millions dead in the Third World War -- wonder if it was like this in July of 1914 or 1939....?

To understand the Chechen conflict it must be realized that in the late 1950's Stalin deported in excess of 95% of the population to the East. This is considered historical fact by all sides. They will not permit this to happen again.

I will not try and address the hypocrisy of why it is ok for numerous former Soviet states to become independent but for the Chechens it is not. This is not a war of religion but one of Nationalism. When the Russians attacked in 1995 the Chechens took help from wherever they could get it and yes -- this included many Eastern holy warriors from Afghanistan.

These brave fighters killed many Russians in that war just as they continue to do now. Moscow gets their asses kicked every week in Chechnya, hundreds of Russian conscripts die there each month despite their overwhelming edge in artillery, troops, and airpower.

The United States has provided Stinger missiles to the Chechens since last year. Real Americans are not fooled by this sudden "friendship" with Moscow. The ex-KGB thug Putin seeks to destroy America or at least reduce the US influence to a level where it is a bi-polar world again.

Now American forces are bunched up and preparing to fight in Afghanistan. A month ago could you believe this was about to happen?

Are you familiar with Atomic mines? The Chinese have deployed several of these devices along their border with Russia since the late 1970's in an attempt to prevent a Soviet move across the Amur River.

The first rule of modern combat is not to get caught in a group. "Spread out" just as effective in World War II as it is today. Yet American forces have been maneuvered into huge concentrations...

The ex-KGB thug, unlike the Serbs, uses propaganda to demonize his enemy. Thus American sheep are influenced to think Chechen freedom fighters are Muslim terrorists. Are you serious? You think these guys flew a plane into the WTC?

Hundreds of thousands of Chechen women and children are in concentration camps. However you do not read about this because Moscow kidnaps any Western journalists brave enough to go to Chechnya to report the truth. Pro-Moscow elements then claim to be Chechens responsible for this outrage.

Ask yourself why the US backs the Kosovo Liberation Army and the Chechen fighters. It is because these nationalistic elements seek to provide control of areas soon to be crucial for the new pipelines. Moscow does not like this so they back Macedonian paramilitaries and Greek terrorists like November 17 in the modern day cold war.

Within months, hundreds of thousands will be dead. America is now committed to a war and cannot back out -- and in a sense the enemy gains a huge victory by eliminating US options other than war. That is why the US must be strong and not falter in seeking victory. Secretary Powell needs to stand down and allow Mr Wolfowitz to take charge.

When the balloon goes up the Chechen fighters will still be killing Russians every day. Moscow seeks to yield because Putin wishes to disengage forces for redeployment. However the forces of President Maskhadov will accept nothing short of a complete Russian surrender -- as happened in the first war.

Russians are cowards and murderers. They seek to use America's tragedy to their advantage -- I suspect they know a good deal about the 9-11 attacks. Nobody in America will be saddened when "Allah's suitcase" opens in Moscow.

On another thread the Humanitarian warrior laughs about KLA forces being on the ground in Afghanistan to spot for NATO bombers as during the Kosovo war. He makes the mistake of thinking that all KLA fighters are Albanian -- as Mr D wrote in March, many of them are US Special Forces.

Same thing in Chechnya. America supports the Chechen fighters under President Maskhadov and always has. If you attack them -- you attack America. Mr Bush does not cut and run when his friends need help. By the same token they are with him the distance until the enemy is destroyed....

The forces of freedom on the move. Europe trembles.

18 posted on 09/25/2001 4:05:54 PM PDT by Fusion
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To: Fusion
I think you're getting in a bit deep here. I can't see where it's in our interests to help the Chechen rebels. In fact, far from it. We simply cannot afford to have the Russian Republic fall apart. More so now than in the early 90's.
24 posted on 09/25/2001 4:48:00 PM PDT by TKEman
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To: Fusion
Rest assured that one of the major Western cities will be destroyed by a crude nuclear device before the end of the year.

Fusion finally says something he can be tested on - you should stick with vague pronouncements that can't be disproven.

I look forward to referencing this thread in 100 odd days.

28 posted on 09/25/2001 6:00:26 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Fusion
Let me put it this way to you maggot, if and when a Western city goes nuclear, there will be about 500 million less Islamic heretics left in this world. I can guarentee that in the US, the 7 million muslims will be rounded up for their own safety, because if they are not the public linchings will curtail your roach like breeding patterns. In Russia, the 15% Islamics will either get dead or get Christian in a hurry. Even the Panzi assed EU socialites will have to respond by 1. evicting the lot of you termites and then slaughtering in the good old days. If you schmucks of Shiete really want a Christian crusade, you'll get one. May I remind you, of narrow minded concubine of a one legged flea infested Efreete, that the Crusades came in as a response to your desert flees killing Christians and when the Crusades did come, there were no thoughts of conversion...only extermination...

So I've got to ask, oh future fertilizer of sand dunes...you feeling lucky punk? Because the next thing you'll hear is a great in take of air following a bright flash.

29 posted on 09/25/2001 8:38:53 PM PDT by Stavka2
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To: Fusion
By the way, oh schmuck of swamp leechs, how does your fantasy world reconcile itself to the facts that: 1. all the Illyrian maggots ran away from the Serb army. 2. the great Chechyn love feast lasted 24 hours, numbered a whopping 300 fighters and got their collective arse handed to them...hell 20 in one building after the Russian army just leveled it instead of taking it and the best part of soon to be frekised by cacodeamons...Mashkidov fell all over himself to negotiate for his hide....laughs and grins all around...and maybe we'll even give them a drinking problem.
30 posted on 09/25/2001 8:41:50 PM PDT by Stavka2
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To: Fusion
"Nobody in America will be saddened when 'Allah's suitcase' opens in Moscow."

Please don't mistake our joy at the vengeance Russia exacts on you with our sadness at the loss of innocent lives in Moscow.

Your country would be wise to keep its eyes on the calendar. Three days is not a very long time to come to your collective senses.

33 posted on 09/26/2001 12:24:39 AM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Fusion
Stop buggering the pigs and get your head out of your ass before you suffacate.

If one of these pieces of filth detonate a nuke in the US the middle east will quickly become glass, and we will drown the muslims of mecca in swine blood.

may warts grow on the inside of your nose 'o gurgler of camel piss.

35 posted on 09/26/2001 12:51:18 AM PDT by WolfsView
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To: Fusion
Okay Fusion, I'll play along for fun.

Hmm...could this have something to do with this: The leader of Chechens -kistincev blew up himself in the toilet.

The forces of the Albanian narco-mafia on the move... Europe barfs.

54 posted on 10/22/2001 2:05:51 PM PDT by wonders
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