Posted on 09/24/2001 4:30:20 PM PDT by michigander
Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:20 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
As was Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Chairman Mao, yet they sanely pursued an irrational goal of world domination in which all resources were centrally controlled and wealth was equally divided.
I'll take Putin over that bunch any day. I trust President Bush's judgement of the man, for one thing, and I also remember how he made a point to insult MADelin Albright (who I consider to be an enemy of freedom and an enemy of America).
The Russians share a common enemy with us now, and the Russians are cooperating with us. That makes them more of our ally than any nation who fails to use their own troops to attack terrorists, at least in my book.
Russians aren't cooperating, they've been fighting Bin Laden in Chechnya, on Tajik-Afgan border and by supplying arms to the Northern Alliance for years. It's the Americans who finally have the chance to make a stand on the issue whether they oppose islamic terrorists universally or they still divide them into "good" and "bad" terrorists.
Did you see that clown O'Reilly spouting about "Yugoslavians mass murdering muslims", paraphrasingly, yesterday, and how Americans stopped that? Some people never learn.
bin Laden knows the hour in which he will commit suicide to avoid capture and we don't.
KLA mujahedeen in Albania, Kosovo/Serbia, and Bosnia as well as mujahedeen in Chechnya and Afghanistan are almost without exception terrorists and radical extremists who should be opposed by all civilized nations.
Frankly, I was stunned from the moment I saw Hillary Clinton kissing Arafat's wife through our support of KLA forces and insistence on "human rights" for the murderers in Chechnya. Such misguided policies would seem to be dead now, however, and for that I'm grateful.
In my book too. But they underestimated the enemy last time around, and neither we nor they should make the same mistake again.
22 Posted on 09/25/2001 12:44:38 PDT by Southack
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CT ... I hesitate to reply to you at all, because your commentaries are so well informed and persuasive. It IS all madness, what OBL and his confederates do against anyone, anywhere. It is only because life can be extraordinarily surprising, that anyone would not predict their futile demise, along with many of their brethern.
But probable futile demise is what they have chosen, knowingly, and so the question is whether it all amounts to a hill of beans.
My guess is that Islam is going to remain intact after this present stuff is done. History (anyone's) will not ignore what happens in this war. This will specifically be a reference point for Islam, forever, whatever the outcome. Look at the images they start off with. They serve only to flush adrenalin into a religion not associated with peace (are there pacifist Moslems?)
The implications of what OBL did, is that he has a long view and considers the consequences. His entire strategy may include the inevitable failure of his worldly enterprise. "Failure," tho, measured against what he considers the transitory and trifling considerations of life.
"The Moslem v. Christian & Jew" feature of the rhetoric of OBL and his brethern, might sound odd to most Christians and Jews, certainly to most others. That is because we all live in a substantially different mental world from the bastards. A sort of a-religious, religious world.
OBL and his guys are saying they are not going to sit around the global campfire and sing Kumbaya. They want everyone else to bow down five times a day. They think they know how they can contrive to get Allah to rule the Earth.
It is problematic, whether their futility is meaningless. It may very well be not so mad, if madness outlasts smugness.
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