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Hundreds call for forgiveness, not violence
The Seattle Times ^ | 9/23/01 | Christine Clarridge

Posted on 09/23/2001 11:51:52 PM PDT by ppaul

Crowded into Westlake Plaza yesterday afternoon were hundreds of people: professional protesters, anti-military activists and plenty of regular folks with kids, jobs and mortgages, who wanted to let the world, the city, anyone who would listen, know that they don't want war. They carried placards and signs that said, "One people, one planet" and "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind."

And they cheered for speakers who called for reason, patience, compassion and forgiveness in the midst of a military buildup sparked by the terrorist attacks.

"Tuesday (Sept. 11) gave us a pile of rubble that was not only of bricks but also of bodies and hopes and dreams," said Gina Aaf, an Afghanistan native and University of Washington student. "There have been many piles just like that throughout history and one more pile isn't going to solve anything."

Ed Mast, a spokesman for the 911 Peace Coalition that helped organize the Alternatives to Violence rally, urged the crowd to be strong of heart.

"We are grieving. We are mourning," he said. "But let's not betray our grieving with more violence. Let's not betray our mourning with more deaths."

Many in the crowd acknowledged that there was an element of futility to their message: Their voices couldn't stop the buildup of arms and forces already under way in the United States and abroad.

But they said it was important for people to know that the war movement, while supported by many, is by no means supported by all.

"It's a very important thing to show that there are people who are opposed," said Ernest Mailhot, a member of the Socialist Workers Party.

"There's been this idea that if you are not backing the war drive, you're not mourning the dead, and that's wrong."

Cori Adler, a professor, writer and mother who brought her 2-year-old daughter, said she hoped the tragedy would inspire the United States to re-examine its role in the world.

"We can't put all our energy into being a superpower and then be surprised when we're viewed as bullies," she said.

Whenever one group attacks another, it's often described as a strategic move.

"Well, now that's happened to us and we know that all that symbolic posturing is really about real bodies, real blood and real lives."

The demonstration, which may have drawn as many as 800 participants, was overwhelmingly peaceful despite a small group of counterprotesters who gathered across the street with signs and flags.

"We're out here to support the U.S. and George Bush," said Crosby Olsen, a student at O'Dea High School. "All these people, if they got what they wanted, this country would no longer be free and they wouldn't be able to stand over there and protest."

Lee Tuimanu'a, a former Marine who served two tours in Vietnam, was driving through town on his Harley when he saw the demonstration and the small group of counterprotesters. He pulled over and took a stand with the smaller group.

An anti-war demonstrator, who didn't want to give his name, approached Tuimanu'a, wanting to know why the ex-Marine picked that side.

"I've earned my citizenship. I have a right to be here. You haven't earned anything," said Tuimanu'a, who was wearing a "Remember New York" T-shirt and a red, white and blue bandana.

After a few more exchanges, he lost patience: "Kid, you're a leech. You have the luxury of being here for free because guys like me made the sacrifice."

(emphasis added)


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To: Vox66
Sure they have the right to protest.

Did anyone protest "the war" a week after Pearl Harbor? I didn't think so.

So when it comes time that they get their draft notices next year, will you support their "right" to "protest" by running to Canada?

Or will you ultimately agree that "freedom is not free"?

Or do you believe that parasites and leeches should enjoy freedom protected only by the blood of fellow countrymen, but never their own?

21 posted on 09/24/2001 1:05:23 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Vox66 Travis McGee
.....let's not criticize people when they actually exercise those freedoms.

Why the hell not, pray tell? If it's okay for them to run down our country, our flag, the President, our way of life, giving aid and comfort to our enemies in doing so - why isn't it okay for patriotic Americans to exrcise our right to free speech and criticize them? Reminds me of an old Merle Haggard song:

Fightin' Side of Me

I hear people talking bad about
the way they have to live here in this country.
Harpin' on the wars we fight,
gripin' 'bout the way things ought to be.
Now I don't mind them switchin' sides
and standin' up for things that they believe in,
But when they're runnin' down our country man,
They're walkin' on The Fightin' Fide Of Me.

Chorus

They're walkin' on The Fightin' Side Of Me.
Runnin' down a way of life our fightin' men
have fought and died to keep.
If you don't love it, leave it,
Let this song that I'm singin' be a warnin',
When you're runnin' down our country man -
You're walkin' on The Fightin' Side Of Me.

Verse 2 I read about some squirrely guy
Who claims that he just don't believe in fightin',
And I wonder just how long
the rest of us can count on bein' free.
They love our milk and honey
but they preach about some other way of livin',
When they're runnin' down our country man
They're walkin' on The Fightin' Side Of Me.

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Darn right!

22 posted on 09/24/2001 1:10:40 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: Vox66, Triage
Triage is correct, Vox66. You are wrong. You are enabling these traitors and they are assisting the Taliban. These assholes are giving aid and comfort to the enemy. What the hell are you doing at this forum, anyway?
23 posted on 09/24/2001 1:13:58 AM PDT by Mortimer Snavely
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To: all
if our founding fathers were wussies.... we all be all dead//

too many pathetic people live in the USA

24 posted on 09/24/2001 1:19:49 AM PDT by KQQL
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To: KQQL
You just signed up? Welcome to FR.
25 posted on 09/24/2001 1:24:32 AM PDT by ppaul
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26 posted on 09/24/2001 1:30:28 AM PDT by ppaul
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27 posted on 09/24/2001 1:32:38 AM PDT by ppaul
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29 posted on 09/24/2001 1:37:20 AM PDT by ppaul
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30 posted on 09/24/2001 1:39:21 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: Vox66
I think you had better read the profile of the poster you just lectured. Then I am sure your sanctimonious "died for" bull sh&t will stop.
31 posted on 09/24/2001 1:39:25 AM PDT by Texasforever
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33 posted on 09/24/2001 1:41:07 AM PDT by ppaul
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34 posted on 09/24/2001 1:43:52 AM PDT by ppaul
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35 posted on 09/24/2001 1:45:33 AM PDT by ppaul
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36 posted on 09/24/2001 1:47:24 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: ppaul
Losers. Screw them and forgiveness.
37 posted on 09/24/2001 1:48:03 AM PDT by StoneColdGOP
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To: Vox66
If you want to throw people in jail merely for exercising their Constitutional rights, you spit on the Constitution itself.

There is a bright constitutional line drawn when "free speech" crosses over to aid and comfort of the enemy. We lost track of that principle during the Viet Nam war and it cost several thousand US soldier's lives. I hope to hell we do not do it again.

38 posted on 09/24/2001 1:49:30 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: ppaul , 68-69 Tonkin Yatch Gulf Club, ALOHA RONNIE,Nam Vet,
Thank God for Lee Tuimanu'a and what he said and for serving this nation and helping to keep me free.<>p> Man I hate this so much , anti-war protestors. It feels like the 60's starting all over again and I am not a happy camper about this one bit.

NOT ONE PROTESTOR GAVE ME MY FREEDOM BACK THEN NOR NOW !!!! It was paid for with a very high price of those who have served this nation in every war.

I say Welcome Home Vets and a big (((((( HUG ))))) and thank you. These protestors can go to hell and let Jane Fonda drive them there.

39 posted on 09/24/2001 1:53:10 AM PDT by Snow Bunny
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