[MHGinTN]

Please keep comments and discussion to the topic of Islamism (some hyperlinks to further reading would be nice, but pleae don't post long reference passages that tie up the bandwidth and make the thread too long to load) and the two pronged assault mentioned in the essay. If you disagree vehemently, okay, but let's discuss it without harassing each other.

[MHGinTN]

Former Prime MInister Netanyahu's speech to the Congressional Committee can be found at http://www.house.gov/reform/statement_of_netanyahu.htm for those who would like to update for the debates coming.

[Fiddlstix]

BTTT

[Brian Kopp DPM]

Well said, Marvin. Congrats. Thank you for the ping!

[Luis Gonzalez]

Bump! Excellent!

[MeekOneGOP]

The war America has been thrust into is a religious war, at least to the terrorists, and it surely threatens civilization as we know it.

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This war brought to us by these Islamists is what they call a Jihad, , or Holy War, correct?

[MeekOneGOP]

Excellent post, BTW! Many thanks!

[MeekOneGOP]

Excellent Analysis Bump!

[MeekOneGOP]

Excellent Analysis Bump!

[r9etb]

The true end to Islamism can only come from the Moslem world rejecting this radicalism that disrupts and destroys through terror and intimidation. To achieve that change of Moslem minds will require addressing the issues held by the greater Moslem community, addressing these issues in a peaceful coherency that generates confidence in co-existence rather than suspicion in factionalism … but first, we must accept that we are at war not at peace.

Yes. To use the New Testament phrase, it's like pruning the native stock from the olive tree. The question is: how? How does this gentler Islam get a firm grip?

I can think of a couple of ways. First, create something like "Radio Free Islam." Offer TV and radio broadcast facilities to moderate Islamic clerics, to strengthen their message.

Second, we have to identify and address some of the conditions which drive people toward the Islamists. I've seen plenty of hooting by FReepers, directed toward those who mention "root causes," but there's something going on that drives folks to become martyrs. What is it, and is there something we can do to control it?

Along those lines, I'd point to the Palestinian refugee camps. Palestinians have been living in those camps since 1948(!!) in often squalid conditions. The fact of the camps' continued existence is mostly the fault of Arab governments, and of the PLO, and from such camps come men, steeped in hatred, who are willing to die for the cause.

Similar stories are available throughout the Moslem countries, which suggests that the problem has to do with the tendency of Moslem governments are often religious and secular (I believe the word is Shariah?). Thus, one starting place would be to foster -- evangelize is perhaps the right word -- the sort of explicitly secular movement that made Turkey a basically hospitable country.

[FReethesheeples]

YES!

We can help make it BETTER!

[Josiah6]

With this world war, we truly have an opportunity to make world-wide changes that benefit all humankind who wish peaceful co-existence, lifting peoples and societies out of poverty and into a world community that values responsibility and self-reliance, that rewards peaceful co-existence and diligence with security, self-worth and fulfillment. But we must annihilate the enemy of those values, first! We must face down this new totalitarian threat with an eye to ending the enmities that give rise to such fanaticism.

The current plague of radical Islam must be wiped off the face of the earth.

My long term concern which is one based on the resulting end of the last war of this type (W.W.II) is what will be the end result?

What type of government system fills the vacuum that we will create when these types of regimes are toppled?

Most of all the people who are subjugated by these people in their heart hate us and democracy

What will be the financial cost of a new type of Marshall plan?

There seems to be thought process going on that says, wipe them out and replace with them with democratic governments. Do these people want a open and free government, I sometimes wonder.

I really wonder when all the chips fall, will they fall the way we want them

In fact the process is in motion, may God give us light to see the end.

[FReethesheeples]

bump

[lds23]

Maybe Islamists will soon learn "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you". The hard way.

[ChaseR]

"...but go to war with whom and where, and how do we wage this war?"

With everything we might choose from in our arsenal including Mr Neutron.

[185JHP]

Thanks for the ping. In the 70s William Colby was interviewed in Playboy (some of us did read the thing). And he was asked "What are the biggest threats to come?" He said "Radical Islam, Mexico, and China." We need to take Islam to one of two places: Where they CANNOT war against us, or: Where they CHOOSE NOT TO war against us. The suppurating evil sophistry seeping from the usual leftist suspects won't stop W. He'll roll. This is his place and time.

[betty boop]

Bump!!!